Russia and Former Soviet Nations

unmerged(20598) · Dec 21, 2003

MRAKoris said:
How come that agrarian Kharitonov was appointed to Chief of Staff? It's like me being a sorta ballerina

Agrarian? He has just been kicked from the Agrarian Party because of being "too aligned towards the Communist Party" (http://newlist.ru/Detailed/2947.html), besides, he is famous for being proud colonel of KGB and a follower of Dzerzhinskiy. Do you have another candidate for this place except Makashov?

As for the division names - yes, they are made up. I just translated the names from English into Russian and added some divisions with historical and patriotic names, like the original Preobrazhenskiy Polk and Semenovskiy Polk were trained personally by Peter the Great...

unmerged(21591) · Jan 11, 2004

Baltic nations

What about the Baltic Nations are they giong to get this event to?
They are a part of EU for next year so... I dont think russia would try to go to war with them our demand their land....

unmerged(16020) · Jan 11, 2004

Maretti said:
What about the Baltic Nations are they giong to get this event to?
They are a part of EU for next year so... I dont think russia would try to go to war with them our demand their land....

Yup, and Russia's claims on the Baltic nations really aren't that strong. There's more difference between a Lithuanian and a Russian than a Byelorussian.

String · Jan 11, 2004

Estonia most surely wont let themselves be annexed the second time! (like we did in 1940

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unmerged(16020) · Jan 11, 2004

String said:
Estonia most surely wont let themselves be annexed the second time! (like we did in 1940 )

I know, we've only been talking about Russia annexing Belarus and Kazakhstan peacefully. Their target after that would be Ukraine.

MRAKoris · Jan 16, 2004

Papergut said:
Agrarian? He has just been kicked from the Agrarian Party because of being "too aligned towards the Communist Party" (http://newlist.ru/Detailed/2947.html), besides, he is famous for being proud colonel of KGB and a follower of Dzerzhinskiy. Do you have another candidate for this place except Makashov?

As for the division names - yes, they are made up. I just translated the names from English into Russian and added some divisions with historical and patriotic names, like the original Preobrazhenskiy Polk and Semenovskiy Polk were trained personally by Peter the Great...

You were misinformed: Agrarian party split into two factions: one is led by Mikhail Lapshin, and the 2nd one is led by Kharitonov, and actually he participated in the elections as APR rep...

unmerged(23487) · Mar 14, 2004

Hmmmmhmmmm... Just posting my thoughts...

Looking at Putin's policy... We don't need fascist to get the ultimatum's flying...

So... Hmmm...

CTF would definedly get mad at Russia if it would, even peacefuly, annex any east european country.

Hmmm-mmm.

Russia is repaying some of the WWII economical indemnities(?) to Finland... By drilling a huge hole the the finnish soil(bedrock more likely) for research purposes... Are we going to have any oil dirlling techs in the mod?

Estonia and Russia are getting help to solve their ecological problems... We are going ot have some eco-techs in this mod, right?

The civil war shouldn't be a must but it should be a result of the player's choices and dissent.

unmerged(16020) · Mar 14, 2004

If there isn't a civil war, then it creates all kinds of problems. For the alpha at least, I think we should guarantee a civil war to simplify the event chains.

From my understanding, the only two countries that would be willing to be peacefully annexed by Russia are Kazakhstan and Belarus.

unmerged(23487) · Mar 15, 2004

Hmmm...Yes, yes, the alpha of course...

Of course they might get peacefully annexed but I bet EU would get a bit upset from annexation of Belarus and China/USA would propably get a bit nervous if the russians would annex Kazkahstan.

unmerged(16020) · Mar 16, 2004

Russia should be diplomatically friendly with China at the point where they go for Kazakhstan. However, even if they're not, China and the US will have already gone to war and have other things on their mind.

Russia is playing the opportunist in the mod, taking advantage of the fact that everyone is looking somewhere else. Europe is pretty much the only ones left that care, and that eventually erupts into a conflict.

unmerged(27050) · Mar 28, 2004

How about an event for one of the formor soviet states where they could sell a nuke to North Korea or Pakistan in exchange for some raw materials? Kind of vague, i know, but that seems likely.

unmerged(16020) · Mar 28, 2004

I'm not sure. North Korea frankly doesn't have much money. Another Government wouldn't sell them anything because it simply wouldn't add up. Individuals, however, would find 100 million a lot.

unmerged(25503) · Apr 7, 2004

Is Russia gonna have claims over former soviet states in MDS?

unmerged(23487) · Apr 7, 2004

Belarussia, yes. Other, dunno.

unmerged(16020) · Apr 7, 2004

I'm not sure how we're going to handle the claims and whatnot. The basic plan has Russia peacefully annexing Kazakhstan and Belarus and the attempt for Ukraine goes horribly wrong starting war. Whether ot not to force the annexation through an event or to add the claims through the event, I'm not sure. I doubt we'll have the claims on at the start though since it would be silly to have Russia annex two countries in 03.

unmerged(15893) · Apr 8, 2004

From what I remember, I believe that the plan was that if Russia became Military Dictatorship after the Civil War, that they would peacefully attempt to annex Belarus, Kazakhstan (and those other nations near it), and Ukraine. It would be that Belarus and Kazakhstan would have 2 options, to accept and decline. Accept would be 1, and Decline 2. But for Ukraine, decline (DoW) would be 1 and accept (peaceful annex) would be 2.

unmerged(25503) · Apr 11, 2004

Also who controls the baltic fleet ? Im not sure wheather its the Baltic states but i believe its fairly large

unmerged(25503) · Apr 11, 2004

if you had the baltic states controlling them that would be a good event russia demands baltic fleet options 1 give them it 2 war what do you think ?

h345 · Apr 11, 2004

poppy7143 said:
Also who controls the baltic fleet ? Im not sure wheather its the Baltic states but i believe its fairly large

Russia still has a port on the Baltic so why would the baltics states ahve control over the flleet?

unmerged(15113) · Jul 20, 2004

I coded some events for Russia.
As usual, comments and ideas appreciated.

Code:

#################################################
# Restart the old Soviet projects?
#################################################

event = {
      id = 72002
      random = no
      country = RUS
      trigger = {
              puppet = no
      }

      name = "Restart the old Soviet projects?"
      desc = "Should we restart the old Soviet science projects? It will be costly, but it would surely help..."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 8 month = january year = 2005 }
      offset = 15
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 2014 }

      action_a = {
              name = "Yes!"
              command = { type = manpowerpool value = -500 }
              command = { type = supplies value = -10000 }
              command = { type = oilpool value = -10000 }
              command = { type = gain_tech which = (Plane-tech) }
              command = { type = gain_tech which = (Tank-tech) }
              command = { type = gain_tech which = (Space-tech) }
              command = { type = gain_tech which = (Gunnery-tech) }
              command = { type = dissent value = 4 }
              command = { type = alignment which = fascist value = 5 }
      }
      action_b = {
              name = "Only some of them"
              command = { type = manpowerpool value = -250 }
              command = { type = supplies value = -5000 }
              command = { type = oilpool value = -5000 }
              command = { type = gain_tech which = (Plane-tech) }
              command = { type = gain_tech which = (Tank-tech) }
              command = { type = dissent value = 2 }
      }
      action_c = {
              name = "No, too costly"
      }
}

#########################################
# European companies seek deals
#########################################

event = {
      id = 72003
      random = no
      country = RUS
      trigger = {
              NOT = {
              war = { country = RUS country = FRA }
              }
      }

      name = "European oil companies seek deals" 
      desc = "Some European oil companies want us to sell them oil. This is an offer we simply can't refuse! It would help our battered economy."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 20 month = december year = 2005 }
      offset = 15
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 2014 }

      action_a = {
              name = "Indeed"
              command = { type = oilpool value = -10000 }
              command = { type = dissent value = -8 }
              command = { type = alignment which = democracy value = 5 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Oil province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Oil province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Oil province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Oil province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = trigger which = 92001 }
              command = { type = trigger which = 31002 }
              command = { type = trigger which = 34001 }
      }
      action_b = {
              name = "No, we need the oil ourselves!"
              command = { type = dissent value = 8 }
              command = { type = alignment which = fascist value = 5 }
      }
}

############################################
# American companies seek deals
############################################

event = {
      id = 72004
      random = no
      country = RUS
      trigger = {
              NOT = {
              war = { country = RUS country = USA }
              }
      }

      name = "American companies seek deals"
      desc = "Some American companies want to make various deals, including selling steel and supplies to them, with us. This is an offer we simply can't refuse! It would help our battered economy."
      style = 0

      date = { day = 4 month = april year = 2006 }
      offset = 15
      deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 2014 }

      action_a = {
              name = "Indeed"
              command = { type = steelpool value = -10000 }
              command = { type = supplies value = -10000 }
              command = { type = dissent value = -8 }
              command = { type = alignment which = democracy value = 5 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Steel province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Steel province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Steel province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Steel province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = industry which = (Steel province) value = 1 }
              command = { type = trigger which = 93020 }
      }
      action_b = {
              name = "No, we need the steel and supplies ourselves!"
              command = { type = dissent value = 8 }
              command = { type = alignment which = fascist value = 5 }
      }
}

Russia and Former Soviet Nations

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