Runemaster - Developer Diary 7 - Change vs Stability

[SolSara]

:blink:

Really?

:blink:

Paradox is in danger of becoming too mainstream for me. I enjoy telling people "Oh, I play games made by Paradox. You've probably never heard of them."

I'm sorry, but whenever someone says "[...] too mainstream" I think of hipsters and the whole "Oh, I liked them before they were cool/famous. Now they are just sellouts." Think of it like this: the more who knows about Paradox Development Studio and the games, the more games we sell and the more games we can make. It is a win-win situation for all

...And you might have been just a bit ironic and I might just have realized the joke ^^ No offence taken?

 

[Slargos]

His full name is Secret master [of Hipsters]. He was [secretly] a hipster before it was cool.

 

[safferli]

:blink:

Really?

:blink:

Paradox is in danger of becoming too mainstream for me. I enjoy telling people "Oh, I play games made by Paradox. You've probably never heard of them."

Yes, but we played them before they were cool. Before you could play them with a gamepad.

 

[safferli]

I'm sorry, but whenever someone says "[...] too mainstream" I think of hipsters and the whole "Oh, I liked them before they were cool/famous. Now they are just sellouts." Think of it like this: the more who knows about Paradox Development Studio and the games, the more games we sell and the more games we can make. It is a win-win situation for all

...And you might have been just a bit ironic and I might just have realized the joke ^^ No offence taken?

Also: http://xkcd.com/1220/

 

[Secret Master]

I'm sorry, but whenever someone says "[...] too mainstream" I think of hipsters and the whole "Oh, I liked them before they were cool/famous. Now they are just sellouts." Think of it like this: the more who knows about Paradox Development Studio and the games, the more games we sell and the more games we can make. It is a win-win situation for all

...And you might have been just a bit ironic and I might just have realized the joke ^^ No offence taken?

Yes, I was being ironic. I am genuinely surprised (in a good way) about the Steam Box stuff. It seems like a good fit, I just didn't expect it.

True story about Paradox and being mainstream:

As an academic, I often attend conferences. But the biggest one I attend regularly is the Congress of Medieval Studies held in Kalamazoo Michigan every year. It is the biggest academic conference for all things medieval in the academic world. (As in, any intellectual you've seen on History Channel documentaries is there.)

I am just a no-name guy still working on his PhD, but I love networking there. One of the things I do to network is participate in the "Festive Gaming Workshop" hosted by the MEMO group. (We do all the multimedia medievalisms, including games.) For the past two years, I've brought CK2 on my laptop and shared it with the academics who come and see what's cool in the industry.

It literally takes me an hour to explain CK2 to these folks. And being medievalists, they have all kinds of detailed questions, like "Can I imprison those heretics?" and "Did you just borrow money from those Jewish communities and then kick them out of your realm? I just wrote an article about that stuff for an academic journal." It always steals the show and the younger academics all want to run out and buy a copy.

So, the great irony is that CK2 is popular among those with enough education to appreciate the game's mechanics... but they are also not mainsteam audiences, either.

But the products sell themselves when someone can sit down with it. The real trick is getting it to people who would enjoy it and pay for it. And so, getting it to more people in general is always a good idea.

(Too bad the older academics are frightened and confused by computer games; I'd love to see a CK2 MP game between the top five medieval historians featured on the History Channel for the past ten years. We'd see how they really think. )

His full name is Secret master [of Hipsters]. He was [secretly] a hipster before it was cool.

Son, I've gone from hipster to "get off my lawn yelling at cloud old guy." It's a fine line.

 

[shal5]

(As in, any intellectual you've seen on History Channel documentaries is there.)

It's aliens..

 

[SolSara]

Yes, I was being ironic. I am genuinely surprised (in a good way) about the Steam Box stuff. It seems like a good fit, I just didn't expect it.

True story about Paradox and being mainstream:

As an academic, I often attend conferences. But the biggest one I attend regularly is the Congress of Medieval Studies held in Kalamazoo Michigan every year. It is the biggest academic conference for all things medieval in the academic world. (As in, any intellectual you've seen on History Channel documentaries is there.)

I am just a no-name guy still working on his PhD, but I love networking there. One of the things I do to network is participate in the "Festive Gaming Workshop" hosted by the MEMO group. (We do all the multimedia medievalisms, including games.) For the past two years, I've brought CK2 on my laptop and shared it with the academics who come and see what's cool in the industry.

It literally takes me an hour to explain CK2 to these folks. And being medievalists, they have all kinds of detailed questions, like "Can I imprison those heretics?" and "Did you just borrow money from those Jewish communities and then kick them out of your realm? I just wrote an article about that stuff for an academic journal." It always steals the show and the younger academics all want to run out and buy a copy.

So, the great irony is that CK2 is popular among those with enough education to appreciate the game's mechanics... but they are also not mainsteam audiences, either.

But the products sell themselves when someone can sit down with it. The real trick is getting it to people who would enjoy it and pay for it. And so, getting it to more people in general is always a good idea.

(Too bad the older academics are frightened and confused by computer games; I'd love to see a CK2 MP game between the top five medieval historians featured on the History Channel for the past ten years. We'd see how they really think. )




Son, I've gone from hipster to "get off my lawn yelling at cloud old guy." It's a fine line.

That's awesome, and it would be even more awesome if we could get people playing CKII on the History Channel

 

[Darsara]

(As in, any intellectual you've seen on History Channel documentaries is there.)

Does... does that include this guy?


Or only the actual intellectuals that haven't actually appear in most programing since 2008?

 

[stratigo]

I dunno, it seems rather harsh that change means "DESTROY THE WORLD" can't you guys just invent cell phones or something.

 

[Darsara]

I dunno, it seems rather harsh that change means "DESTROY THE WORLD" can't you guys just invent cell phones or something.

Maybe we will in the next world, without Huginn and Muninn interfering! And we will destroy the world like a forest fire destroys an old growth forest, opening the light and sky into the dead, empty halls of shadowed trunks!

 

[Jamey]

Working on it Well, I am not working on it, but our art team is.

Yes, as mentioned above, we're working on it. At this very moment, in fact.
That screenshot is a very WIP : )

Thanks for the screenshot. It's nice to see something, even if it is a major WIP.

I'd find it very interesting if you came back in a later DD and did a comparison between early screenshots and new screenshots with an explanation of what was changed and why.

So, it looks like Loki is being set up as one of these progenitor/egalitarian trickster figures. And since we already know the game is multiracial, and the gods of Asgard aren't fond of some of these races, there are some really good story hooks possible.

What he said. I really like this set up for the game. It will allow for real choices between the two sides.

We are aiming to have Runemaster playable on Steam Box/Big Picture and are testing gamepads. I am more of a PC-player than a console one, though I have a PS3, but I like the feel Runemaster has when I play it with a gamepad.

I'd be doing a happy dance right now, but I'm at work and that wouldn't be professional. I love playing console RPGs while sitting in my recliner.

 

[Secret Master]

Does... does that include this guy?
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Or only the actual intellectuals that haven't actually appear in most programing since 2008?

I should have said, "Academics who appeared on the History Channel, before it became the Pawn Stars/Ancient Aliens Channel."

(Seriously, there are some decent documentaries they produced even just 8 years ago. Why don't they do more of that?)

 

[Hector of Troy]

Goodll, finally an argument where taking the "lets provoke the end of the world" option is not portrayed as "you are a raving psychopath"

I want to play as a mythical Schopenhauer Scandinavian Troll.

 

[SolSara]

I dunno, it seems rather harsh that change means "DESTROY THE WORLD" can't you guys just invent cell phones or something.

It is not just "Destroy the world", it is "Destroy the World to give place to a new (better) one".

 

[am300307]

It's aliens..

 

[Colombo]

It is not just "Destroy the world", it is "Destroy the World to give place to a new (better) one".

Yeah, cyclic nature, uroboros, the end of one thing means the beginning of another. The survivors of the previous world would became god of new one! CHIM!

 

[Darsara]

I should have said, "Academics who appeared on the History Channel, before it became the Pawn Stars/Ancient Aliens Channel."

(Seriously, there are some decent documentaries they produced even just 8 years ago. Why don't they do more of that?)

Because awful people want Swamp People, pawn shops, auctions and aliens, not interesting, simply explained yet still accurate and informed documentaries on the 17th century and politics in migration era Europe.

The people responsible for this will serve as the starting stock for the new Náströnd, and will be the Corpse Sucker's first chew toys after the reconstruction.

 

[Teslaflux]

I think it is appropriate to ask it here.

Are there Gods who are on Lokis side?
My knowlegde of Norse Mythology is more or less based on Age of Mythology and CK2. So I have no clue about all the motives of any god(beside Loki and Thor).

 

[Slargos]

I think it is appropriate to ask it here.

Are there Gods who are on Lokis side?
My knowlegde of Norse Mythology is more or less based on Age of Mythology and CK2. So I have no clue about all the motives of any god(beside Loki and Thor).

Depends on what you mean by gods, really.

None of the Aesir side with Loki.

 

[V1ribus]

My knowlegde of Norse Mythology is more or less based on Age of Mythology and CK2.

Have you read all the lore in AoM? If you haven't you'd be surprised how much detail is stored in the game (not much, but enough to give you a relatively solid grounding on the topic), just start right-clicking on portraits to find out about things; from Ox Carts to Ulfsarks to the Gods themselves.