• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

unmerged(95723)

Second Lieutenant
Mar 28, 2008
129
0
IMPORTANT:
we need time to organize becouse:
-Germania is fucked (the last noob player haven't build army) and we have to study situation.
-We have to found another german player

So monday we will not play.
I need to speak to you as foreign minister.
I not aprove what German have done so Italy have quit to axis.
I will contact you to speak about international situation
 

Skarion

Field Marshal
23 Badges
Jul 3, 2004
3.436
2
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Magicka
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Fillo said:
IMPORTANT:
we need time to organize becouse:
-Germania is fucked (the last noob player haven't build army) and we have to study situation.
-We have to found another german player

So monday we will not play.
I need to speak to you as foreign minister.
I not aprove what German have done so Italy have quit to axis.
I will contact you to speak about international situation

Should we jump reverse the last session so we are back until the time Mr. G played?

Or continue somehow? :confused:

And was the German nubbie the same nubbie that was flaming about how much everyone else sucked? :rofl:
 

unmerged(95723)

Second Lieutenant
Mar 28, 2008
129
0
Skarion said:
Should we jump reverse the last session so we are back until the time Mr. G played?

Or continue somehow? :confused:

And was the German nubbie the same nubbie that was flaming about how much everyone else sucked? :rofl:
:rofl: Yes!
He think he was a pro, but now te germany's situation is very hard without army.
If we return to the old save game, we destroy the game... we can't restart the game from the last time.
Maybe could be more interesting now, maybe Italy will attack Germany and there will be another mondial order.
Or maybe i will save Germany.
I could use germany next time to save it... we will see... we have to do a conference...Yalta conference.
Soon i will open a new thread
 

pedal2000

Major
64 Badges
Mar 3, 2004
658
50
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • A Game of Dwarves
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • King Arthur II
  • Magicka
Skarion said:
Should we jump reverse the last session so we are back until the time Mr. G played?

Or continue somehow? :confused:

And was the German nubbie the same nubbie that was flaming about how much everyone else sucked? :rofl:

I think we could continue our current game. To be honest, I think he did what I would have done if my guesses on his research was right.

Meh, Skar, we need to talk, you need to sign on MSN
 

unmerged(79382)

Captain
Jun 29, 2007
372
0
Hey guys.I was germany player.I dont post much but here it goes.

Ill make it simple as to why this game is fucked and non-playeble

1.In warsaw tehre are 70 polish divisions that cannot be destroyed even by 200 german divisions due to urban area bonus.In ALL hoi2 games 36 is the urban limit and the rule is universal in order for the game to work.Without German divisions out of poland france cant be captured.
2.Some1 took my rares from netherlands for over 2 years till 38.
3.USA was human from 36, UK, and soviet vs ITaly and Germany.Usually in vblv usa goes ai till war is declared with japan.
4.Italy is weaker than an ai(fillo) due to the fact that it has built aircraft carries researched almost no industry tech or factories, and is curently building 2 superheavy battleships with 70 ic.
5.The setting is on very hard => allied minors are double stronger.
6.Other players quit this game when they saw it was unaplayeble but i wanted to continue it hoping for a landing in uk.

The rules are strongly against Axis Team.

I wasnt rude or anything i just wanted to explained and soviet player who subbed skairon agreed with me but fillo disagreed with 36 urban limit.

It was not fair towards me cuz i had planned things for that day but the game turned out to be a noob fest.

Axis are now dead.I hope you find another sub like u wanted last time that never played multiplayer.

Fillo, you are a newbie that knows nothing about game mechanics.I know you wanted to have fun but you should accept others advise.I wasted 10 hours for nothing.I learnt a good lesson today not to play newbie games.Now you are gonna lose the game too with ur failed Italy.I wish you good luck in building of ur italian Battlefleet of carries superheavy battleships destroyers cruizers and so on and ur 70 industrial capacity. :rofl: :rofl: :D Also good luck to the german player that has to smash the 70 polish divisions in warsaw.
 

pedal2000

Major
64 Badges
Mar 3, 2004
658
50
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • A Game of Dwarves
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • King Arthur II
  • Magicka
At the end of the day, I ran a test - I have a save on the edge of 39 just for this sort of thing. Stacked all the Polish Divisions in Warsaw; 68; and then swapped to the USSR and watched.

Germany conquered France on a historical timeline - 1940 - and sacked Poland a few months after I swapped. The only difference I can see is the hard difficulty factor; which might have made it a lot more difficult but eh, the AI did it, you can do it. ;)

And correction. You keep saying "usually" - but you're wrong. Every game I've played to date since I started (four seperate games) has had a USA Human, regardless of date. The lack of a Japan was a bit hurt; but considering the only people who quit were ones you recruited, I'm not to worried. I might even have a Germany already who is eager to take it up ;) So have a pleasant day Silver, and I honestly hope I do not meet anyone who complains as much as you again in my time playing this game.
 

Skarion

Field Marshal
23 Badges
Jul 3, 2004
3.436
2
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Magicka
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
1.In warsaw tehre are 70 polish divisions that cannot be destroyed even by 200 german divisions due to urban area bonus.In ALL hoi2 games 36 is the urban limit and the rule is universal in order for the game to work.Without German divisions out of poland france cant be captured.

I win all games I play as Germany in singleplayer against a Polish AI both on Hard and Very Hard. We are now playing on just plain hard and it's not so hard to just beat Poland.

2.Some1 took my rares from netherlands for over 2 years till 38.

Well, I don't know whom it was but that shouldn't matter tbh as it would gamey to believe you would have monopoly on a ware.

3.USA was human from 36, UK, and soviet vs ITaly and Germany.Usually in vblv usa goes ai till war is declared with japan.

I know that can be hard, thought Ive won as Germany versus a Britain, USSR and a USA (with no human allies). The thing is to know what to do.

4.Italy is weaker than an ai(fillo) due to the fact that it has built aircraft carries researched almost no industry tech or factories, and is curently building 2 superheavy battleships with 70 ic.

His game. The point isn't to have an axis/allied/commintern victory but for Italy to beat the USSR (or the USSR to beat Italy).

5.The setting is on very hard => allied minors are double stronger.

It's on hard. It's simple to beat minors, and you still will recieve lots of support from puppets (which I enjoy hard as it force you to keep realistic puppets).

6.Other players quit this game when they saw it was unaplayeble but i wanted to continue it hoping for a landing in uk.

Another whining newbie whom probably barely know how to play quit after flaming all and everyone, and you have been whining about EVERYTHING whole game and then decides to quit when you can't beat a freaking AI as Germany. :wacko:
 

unmerged(64512)

Nuked man
Jan 14, 2007
1.039
0
Hi,
I would like to put a word about this game, I know silverbolt like whinning and complaining very often :rofl: but I agree and defend him for some points :

-70 polish division with very hard modifier can't be beaten properly unless german leave the siegfried line almost empty and put an amount of 150-200 divisions to surrender warsaw with a 200mp loss. :eek:

-yes the 36 urban limit is an universal rule we find in most of games, not using it is a raping of germany

-this game obviously lack of rules then the holes of the game engine can be easily exploited by tricky players and fuck up game lenght.

-running the game in sp to see how it goes isn't a solution to argue because the AI doesnt suffer from very hard modifier and given the AI will not play same as the AI human controlled. (poland and france iirc)

-silverbolt says "usually" because he introduced himself in a group of old hoi players with 4-5 years mp experience that have specific rules to balance the war with an USA ai till 1941 to avoid american zerg rush from guam,philipines,uk or malta.

By the way good luck for your game and have fun. :)
 

unmerged(95723)

Second Lieutenant
Mar 28, 2008
129
0
Hiensen said:
Hi,
I would like to put a word about this game, I know silverbolt like whinning and complaining very often :rofl: but I agree and defend him for some points :

-70 polish division with very hard modifier can't be beaten properly unless german leave the siegfried line almost empty and put an amount of 150-200 divisions to surrender warsaw with a 200mp loss. :eek:

-yes the 36 urban limit is an universal rule we find in most of games, not using it is a raping of germany

-this game obviously lack of rules then the holes of the game engine can be easily exploited by tricky players and fuck up game lenght.

-running the game in sp to see how it goes isn't a solution to argue because the AI doesnt suffer from very hard modifier and given the AI will not play same as the AI human controlled. (poland and france iirc)

-silverbolt says "usually" because he introduced himself in a group of old hoi players with 4-5 years mp experience that have specific rules to balance the war with an USA ai till 1941 to avoid american zerg rush from guam,philipines,uk or malta.

By the way good luck for your game and have fun. :)


Difficult is hard not very hard, this is the 1000° time we say that :wacko:
When we have writen rules, you was in this game and so you would have suggest any more rules.
Any case:
1 There wasn't 68 division in Varsaw at the beginning. A good Blitzerieg would have prevented that.
2 If Germany had more army, Poland would not be a problem.
3 Poland can't survive without IC.
4 Rules are versus axis, but player do differences, not rules. And we have just seen it.

Useless more comments.
see you soon Hiensen... see you soon ;)