Rulers should be allowed to lead legions

[Ares Enyalios]

Since there is no suggestion thread yet but enough people seeing this as rather bad, i therefore created this thread. Previous discussion here:

Inability of rulers to control legions is quite big problem

like it is in title, did anyone managed to have ruler as commander of legions . I find it quite problematic with current loyalty system , to give more power base to fragile characters which are born being disloyal. And ofc i dont find this...

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Summary: Right now, nation leadern can't command legions which is stupid because Consuls were the leaders of the Legions and in the Hellnistic Empires there was basically only one professional army and that was exclusively lead by the king himself!

 

[IsaacCAT]

I wouldnt be surprised, theres an extensive number of issues people have incorrectly identified as bugs only to find they re features somehow

but they have proved they are able to change if there is enough popular votes and rationale... or popular votes and irrationality, I am not sure.

 

[MazzicCron]

I sincerely hope this is changed, along with the inability to merge units. Having a ton of tiny stacks to wheel around feels like a serious step back and the inability for say, the King of Epirus, to lead his best troops, is among the silliest changes I can imagine.

 

[jzachar1]

This needs to addressed very soon.. It almost seems game breaking that a national leader or ruler cannot lead the home legion.

 

[Napoleon1971]

I'm going to toss another vote in for rulers being able to command the capital region legion or levy (not both).

I'm also going to toss in that I agree that levies divided should not all have the same governor leading them. With a bit of micromanagement and a province with 12-14 units in its stack and a governor there with a 14+ military grade, you can have your entire army being run with 14+ grade. That can't be WAD. I could imagine the levies within the governor's province working like that as the guy rides back and forth between stacks leading them all due to proximity. But, its silly to have the governor of Cisalpine Gaul with 1 cohort each stacked with armies in Egypt, Spain, Africa, and Persia and crushing enemies in them all, in addition to still running his province without breaking a sweat.

 

[Ares Enyalios]

I had a really nice campaign with Epiros so far. I like the new TAG when you take over Macedon. Relating to the thread however: I never used Pyrrhos in battle which is a shame. Even if i wanted to use him with his levies it wouldn'd matter because the manpower and the pops of Epiros are so low that you can afford ever the tiny legion or the tiny levy and i went for legion...

 

[IsaacCAT]

I had a really nice campaign with Epiros so far. I like the new TAG when you take over Macedon. Relating to the thread however: I never used Pyrrhos in battle which is a shame. Even if i wanted to use him with his levies it wouldn'd matter because the manpower and the pops of Epiros are so low that you can afford ever the tiny legion or the tiny levy and i went for legion...

you can go with levy + legion, the levy of 500 soldiers will attach to your legion with Pyrrhos as commander, he will take over all the battles with the armies combined.

 

[saegoto]

Was it already mentioned?

Royal guard military reform makes that capital region doesn't have a levy but has legion instead, leading by the ruler.

 

[Don Wing]

RULERS SHOUD LEAD LEGIONS, the capital province at least, Consuls, Diadochi, Persians, all of them lead legions

 

[Bennet_17]

I expected this change to come with 2.02 but now we have 2.03 and this stil hasnt been changed.
I guess we have to wait a little longer.
But my hope is still there that we do not have to wait until 2.1 which will be quite a view months from now.
Maybe there will be a 2.04 with this change. I would very appreciate it.

 

[Ypulse]

I think legions should be commanded by the best characters (highest martial skill), by default automaticly up to 4, without the option to choose.

Or maybe an even better solution and more historical way: top 3 characters by powerbase (leaders of each big family basicly) can only command the legions.

 

[IsaacCAT]

I think legions should be commanded by the best characters (highest martial skill), by default automaticly up to 4, without the option to choose.

Or maybe an even better solution and more historical way: top 3 characters by powerbase (leaders of each big family basicly) can only command the legions.

First the king or consuls. And not only legion but your most important army.

The king will always get his way, the Consuls can be barred by the Senate but with huge loyalty consequences.

This way, if your ruler is not high Martial, you cannot give him a small legion and forget about him. He will always get the first spot.

For tribes. The tribal leaders will split the bigest army and lead one each other, like Consuls and Co-consuls.

This will be done automatically by the game.

 

[Dagda]

Royal guard military reform makes that capital region doesn't have a levy but has legion instead, leading by the ruler.

Wrong.

 

[Bennet_17]

This problem held me back from a major 2.0 run for a very long time.
After 2.0.3 I started with some games but I was hoping to see a solution for this as soon as possible.
The stop on further development for 2021 makes me even more sad because it means that we possibly wont see a change here in the near future.

If there was one thing I would like to see fixed first it is the ability for rulers to lead legions.

 

[Godd_Howard]

I can't belive they didn't even let the devs patch this in the game before leaving it to dry...

 

[KassandrosF]

the most stupid aspect of this situation is that this seems to be a working as intended feature, seriously none of the developers thought players might want the leader of their nation to lead the profesional soldiers in an army? none at all?

 

[Godd_Howard]

This suggestion has more people giving it a thumbs up than EU4's Leviathan DLC on steam. Why do you tourture us like this, Paradox?

 

[Hand of Seleukos]

Since there is no suggestion thread yet but enough people seeing this as rather bad, i therefore created this thread. Previous discussion here:

Inability of rulers to control legions is quite big problem

like it is in title, did anyone managed to have ruler as commander of legions . I find it quite problematic with current loyalty system , to give more power base to fragile characters which are born being disloyal. And ofc i dont find this...

forum.paradoxplaza.com

Summary: Right now, nation leadern can't command legions which is stupid because Consuls were the leaders of the Legions and in the Hellnistic Empires there was basically only one professional army and that was exclusively lead by the king himself!

Epirus has become unplayable because Pyrrhos doesnt have levies and the legion doesnt allow the regions govenor to lead it. Really stupid move.