Rubber producing countries

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Actually Iran did have considerable Oil, after all why was British Petroleum there.
1937 Oil production figures in million metric tonnes 272 million
%s are
USA 60.4
USSR 10.6
Brit Empire 2.0
France 0.0
Dutch East Indies 2.7
Greater Germany 0.2
Rumania 2.4
Iran and Iraq 5.4
Latin America 15.3
Source John Ellis WW2 Databook

I'd guess the Brit Empire figure is made up of the likes of Kuwait, but I may well be very wrong on that.
The BIG Latin America figure is perhaps mainly Venezula, lots of opportunity for attacks on vulnerable tankers in the carribean.
I think the Iran Iraq figure is doubly important as it a fairly secure source for all those oil powered British ships. And because it can be refined and distributed near two major british war theartres, the middle east and Far East. Talking of which does HOI model this aspect of resources distribution, where the supplies are made and used a long way from the home base.
Also Iran and iraq are more than twice as significant as Roumania

 

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Originally posted by draftwarmongers
Actually Iran did have considerable Oil, after all why was British Petroleum there.
1937 Oil production figures in million metric tonnes 272 million
%s are
USA 60.4
USSR 10.6
Brit Empire 2.0
France 0.0
Dutch East Indies 2.7
Greater Germany 0.2
Rumania 2.4
Iran and Iraq 5.4
Latin America 15.3
Source John Ellis WW2 Databook

Yeah but the amount of oil a country produces is not necessarily proportional to the amount it has sitting under gound.

For example in the year 2000 the US ranked 8th in oil reserves (2.82% of the worlds total oil) but it ranked 2nd in production (it produced 10.39% of all the oil produced that year).

A better year to look at would be 1942 to 1944 when everyone was trying to produce as much as possible.

This is a link to a thread I started a while ago about world oil reserves during ww2, it has a map I copied from the 1937 encyclopedia set.
http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=1030679#post1030679

If any one is interested in looking at current production/reserves/consumtion of petroleum and coal look at this site.

http://www.geohive.com/charts/energy_oilres.php

 

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I understood that the manufacture of rubber is not the same as the resource, and that that there is a lot in south america at the time. also, the oil was not explored in depth, and they want to be historically acurate, so they didnt put all the oil where it really is.

 

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The point is they did know that Iran, Venezuela, Mexico, the East Indies and Caucasus region had lots of oil but those areas weren't at full production in 1937 during the depression it was only during WWII that they really had pump as much as they could out of the ground and refine it.

The regions they had not yet explored were places like the Arabian penisula, Libya, Alaska, Alberta, Nigeria and the north sea.

 

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I wasn't talking about reserves. If as you says everyone was striving to improve production as much as possible then we've no evidence either way how these percentages changed. I've actually helped build a small oilfield (from proven reserves) and it does take some time to build; the donkeys et al are relatively easy, its the pipelines and infrastucture that takes the time. Perhaps more crucially its refining capacity that is the limiting factor. I'd quess it took Anglo-Persian a long long time to build Abadan.

 

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Curiousity is the first step to hell, but...

donkeys?

 

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Nodding Donkeys - the pump things that go up and down in pictures of oilfields. seem to remember they featured in the titles of the TV series Dallas. I guess our American friends must have lots of more interesting names for them.
We also built some "pig launchers" in the oilfield, but I don't want to go there !

 

[Jon Shafer]

We call 'em oil pumps here in Colorado.

 

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Just remembered we installed lots of "Xmas Trees" as well

 

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Originally posted by El Tigre Pagano
, and they want to be historically acurate, so they didnt put all the oil where it really is.

If they wanted to be historically accurate, they wouldn't have the imaginary rubber provinces in China. Paradox admitted that the rubber provinces in China were placed there for play-balance purposes.


I found a link that has some 1937 resource production statistics:



http://members.tripod.com/~Sturmvogel/resources.html

 

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Its the other way around:

RODUCTION 1937



So first the adress, then what you want to call it

 

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Originally posted by Poindexter
If they wanted to be historically accurate, they wouldn't have the imaginary rubber provinces in China. Paradox admitted that the rubber provinces in China were placed there for play-balance purposes.

Yes, resources are about 80-90% historical. However, a few ahistorical modifications had to be made for gamebalance purposes. However, most of the modifications dealt with minors, or lesser majors such as China. Among the big boys, the allocations of ICs and resources are pretty true to life, at that time, not now. (That is, very limited oil production in Saudi Arabia even though we now know it was floating on oil. Same with Nigeria).