Rubber producing countries

[jacemiles]

Why aren't there more rubber producing countries...(i.e., South America-, South East China countries.) France and England should receive some rubber resources form some of there colonies. I also read that the US produce most of the world oil. What happen to the middle east? Was the foremention topics done for game balance?

 

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Originally posted by jacemiles
France and England should receive some rubber resources form some of there colonies.

They do

I also read that the US produce most of the world oil. What happen to the middle east? Was the foremention topics done for game balance?

My recollection is that the ME didn't become a major source of oil until the 50's.

 

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South American countries that aren't part of the British or French empire probably have a good deal of rubber. We just don't know yet. Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia in 1938 (or so) and wasn't developed until after WWII.

 

[Mordoch]

Most of the countries you mention do produce some rubber. England actually does have a huge amount of rubber resources from its colonies. The US produces alot of oil, but there is also oil from other locations as well. Keep in mind that much of the Middle East's oil resources were not found and exploited until after the HOI timeperiod, but oil production from nations such as Iraq are in the game. Everything I have heard suggests that the current nations that beta testers have given rubber resources to accurately represents the ones that did posess such resources during the timeperiod under discussion.

 

[Ktarn]

The oil production in the middle east at the time was nothing compared to today. France does get rubber from some of its colonies, so does Belgium btw, and I think UK gets some as well. While there is not many countries in south east China, most of the worlds rubber is from SE asia.
My guess is that this was done as it is the most accurate representation of history.

 

[jacemiles]

Thanks for the info...I stand correct on the issue of rubber producing countries. I found resource chart in FAQs...
I still find it hard to believe that the US produce over half the world oil in that time period. Hitler's act through Southern Russia was design to caputer the middle east oil fields.

 

[Johnny Canuck]

During the time period covered by HOI, the USA produced about two-thirds of the world's oil supply.

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by jacemiles
Thanks for the info...I stand correct on the issue of rubber producing countries. I found resource chart in FAQs...
I still find it hard to believe that the US produce over half the world oil in that time period. Hitler's act through Southern Russia was design to caputer the middle east oil fields.

No, he was after the casacas (I know I've spelled that wrong, sorry its 7am here) oil fields in the USSR. And yes, the US did produce 2/3 of the worlds oil during WWII.

 

[Syt]

Originally posted by Darkrenown
No, he was after the casacas (I know I've spelled that wrong, sorry its 7am here) oil fields in the USSR. And yes, the US did produce 2/3 of the worlds oil during WWII.

Caucasus.

The U.S.S.R. doesn't have inherent rubber (well, in my AAR they do, now), but they have enough oil to convert, and enough coal and steel to trade on the world market.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Hard to belive the US had that much oil... no wonder they're so strong. With all of those natural resources, and no doubt easy trade for rubber (or conversion if they will it to be so) simply their resource situation gives them an enormous advantage over every other country.

 

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Ain't that the truth the Americans have zero resource worries. Just on rubber I was shocked to see how many central African provinces have rubber as their resource. I was expecting most of it to come out of Asia.

 

[Darkrenown]

Originally posted by Sytass
Caucasus.

Thanks. I'd just come back to fix that. Oh well, no need now.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Kiith
Ain't that the truth the Americans have zero resource worries. Just on rubber I was shocked to see how many central African provinces have rubber as their resource. I was expecting most of it to come out of Asia.

Most of it does. IF u have one prov in Asia producing 100 rubber units and 3 in Africa producing 10 each ... well, u do the math

 

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Originally posted by Trip
Hard to belive the US had that much oil... no wonder they're so strong. With all of those natural resources, and no doubt easy trade for rubber (or conversion if they will it to be so) simply their resource situation gives them an enormous advantage over every other country.

But soon after the game is over (-50?) ussr discovered the siberian oil field of z?*** (cant remember), anyway it was bigger than all of usa:s fields, the only problem being in ussr not having strong enough pressure equipment to outproduce USA in oil before 1960s.

So that goes to say, sure usa was producing a lot in 1936-1948, but not that much longer

 

[Razgovory]

It's not really that we ran dry. It's that demand increase so much. Also middle eastern Oil is of better quality.

 

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I have an atlas from 1937, comes in very handy right now, and it has some percentages of US compared to the world. It says the US has 33% of the world production of coal, 63& of crude petroleum, 35% of iron and steel, 50% of world's rubber manufacturers, and 20% of the merchant vessal tonnage. God i love this atlas.

 

[Jon Shafer]

What massive numbers... no wonder we became a superpower.

 

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Before anyone asks why there aren't any rubber producing provinces in US, realize that there is a whole lot of difference between rubber resource and rubber manufacturers.

 

[Nikolai]

What massive numbers... no wonder we became a superpower.

Bah, just luck! If our viking ancestors had kept Vinland...

 

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Originally posted by El Tigre Pagano
I have an atlas from 1937, comes in very handy right now, and it has some percentages of US compared to the world. It says the US has 33% of the world production of coal, 63& of crude petroleum, 35% of iron and steel, 50% of world's rubber manufacturers, and 20% of the merchant vessal tonnage. God i love this atlas.

I have a set of encyclopedias which happen to be published in 1937 too. This set also claims the US produced 2/3 of the world's petroleum but just because it produces X percentage of the petroleum doesn't mean it has X percentage of the worlds known oil reserves. Mexico and the USSR probably had larger oil reserves in the 1930's but because it was the depression and high tariffs were in place and there was no real demand petroleum these countries chose not to produce as much. As for manufacturing 1/2 of the worlds rubber they probably did but I doubt they harvested it since rubber trees only grown in tropical environments (place like Sri Lanka and Burma), and I doubt the Phillipines and Hawaii were producing this much rubber (if any at all). The guayule plant that grows in the American Southwest and in Mexico is a natural source of rubber found in the US but its very hard to grow on a large scale.