Royalistic Party of Eutopia (RPE)

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Royalistic Party of Eutopia (RPE) HQ


The Partys constitution:

The name is Royalistic Party of Eutopia (RPE).
The Party have one chairman and one vice chairman.
All citizens are aloud to join.
To change the partys constitution all members most atleast 80 % of the members most agree. Election of new chairman will be hold if atleast 30 % of the members want that. The chairman appoint the vicechairman.

Government:

Eiuthopia shold have a King/Queen as HoS and a prime minister as head of government. The King should not gain any power the power should be in the hands of the parliament. But RPE are offcourse loyal to the President, and will also has as goal to achive the post of president. But want a King.

Laws:

The current punsihments are good and sholdn't be changed. Criminlas know what they are doing and have to face the consequenses. Abortion shold be legal. We dont tolerate any drugs.

Military:

Euthopia need a strong army, navy and airforce to defend its borders. Therefore the military budget need to be raised.
We also want female conscription.

Economy:

Offcourse we want a capitalistic economy, but the state should buy a lot of companys to earn money, so we don't need to raise the taxes or even can lower them.
"Money makes the worlds goes round" we most discuss the economy.

Education:

All have right to education

Health:

The hospitals should not be private, but its up to everyone to found a own if he want to. And all people who need healthcare should get it free in the hospitals. All old people who need help or need to live in special homes should be able to do that.

Minorities:

All Eutopians should be handled equal

Immigration:

Immigration should be strict controlled but not abolished.


Members:

chairman: Johan Banér**
vice chairman: Gatenhielm

 

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So is this party Reactionary or ultra-leftist? Other than your desire to reinstate the Monarchy (and who is your candidate, you do know that there is no legitimate heir, don't you?) your platform looks ultra-leftist. I doubt you'd find sympathy for the Monarchy among the left wingers, but the rest of your platform alienates those of us who might support your central tenet.

Most Sincerely,
Sean Galloglaigh

 

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Mr Galoglaih

I wont said RPE is a ultra-Leftist party, its a bitconservative party who want a King (royalists exist in most partys), but it is also a bit Liberalistic, then I think about the abortion laws that I don't think is some big question for me. And the economical questions most be discussed, don't missunderstand me when I say we most discuss "Money makes the world goes round" because its true either we won't that or not. The matter of succsession is a later question, but its a lot of noble families here in Eutopia who may be good as Royal family.

//Johan Banér

 

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Fair enough. Our party, at this point, has no position on the Monarchy. Your abortion plank is problematic for us, but not unworkable, especially if you are not strong on the position. More serious to us in your economic view, which seems a little too heavy on big government. We would disagree that government owned buisnesses lower taxes, in fact, we think the exact opposite is the case. Why is it, if Government-owning business lowers taxes, does America have the lowest taxes in the Industrialized world? We are not against some government involvement in industry, but we think the government has encroached far enough already, and indeed some privatization would be a boon for our economy. Especially since Government run businesses have no kept unemployment down either.

We are willing to engage your party in dialogue to determine possible common ground. If there is enough, perhaps you could join our coalition in the future.

 

[Gathenhielm]

Great party! I like to join, if I can be the king later
No, but it seem like a nice party. Eutopia needs a great king/queen and a great army. Though I want to kill people with the electric chair instead of hanging.

OOC: Almost look like the old Imperial party. Great!

 

[jacob-Lundgren]

whether all the views of the party i belong to (free repubs) match yours, as a nationalist and former military man myself i am glad to see a party interested in a strong military.

 

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Indeed, on military issues, I think we will be quite capable of working together. As to the monarchy, that is not an FR issue. We would be willing to entertain a cogent defence of the Monarchy before our party, at which point it would be the member's decision.

 

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Gatenhielm, you are now members of the glourious (RPE)
Jacob Lundgren you are welcome to join us if you want.

Mr Galogola/Schwang1

It is sure you Republicans can accept a King? In my ears that sounds wrong. The abortion queation is not important for me, just think that people should decide if they want to abort or not.
The economy matters, I think that it is importent for the state to get us much monay as it possible to finance a strong military and even social matters, witouth high taxes. Yes, maybe we can work together in a lot of questions.

 

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I'm not "sure" on the issue. We very well might be able to. The CDA (our spiritual predecessor), was strongly in favor of a figurehead monarchy. Personally I find nothing running against our party principles, as such, in affirming the cultural value of the monarchy as a unifying force.

That said, it's not a matter I've put before the party, and it's not in our party principles. So it's a matter for the party to decide. Since election season hasn't begun yet, there's no real reason to push this as an issue before our party either. What I am saying is that nothing in our party principles demands an end to the monarchy in the form you suggest.

 

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Mr. Baner:
If you would be so kind, please elaborate the views of the RPE on the following matters:
(1) Which particular candidate for the monarchy would you support? The Anglican Church of Eutopia (ACE) currently takes no official stand on the monarchy. However, should it be re-introduced, the ACE believes quite strongly that the monarch must represent the best of Eutopia. This means it is necessary that s/he be morally upright, dignified, virtuous, and compassionate. In short, s/he must embody all the attributes of a Christian monarch. We also believe it important for the monarchy to remain in Protestant hands.
(2) What will the role of the church be in any new monarchy? One attribute of monarchies around the world -- in Sweden, the United Kingdom, Spain, to name a few -- is their intimate connection with a state or national religion. The coronation ceremony itself, performed by a member of the clergy, is a perfect example of this. We believe that a monarch, officially connected with a church, is in a unique position to keep faith and Christian values in the center of public life. A purely secular monarchy must necessarily fall into vice, and will be unable to nurture national faith.
I await your answers with anticipation.
Yours in Christ,
The Rt. Rev. Edward

 

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Originally posted by J. Banér
I want a protestantic monarch because those monarch traditionally have appointed Archbishop and not the Pope.

Mr. Baner,
The ACE is pleased that you believe -- as we do -- that any possible candidate for a future Eutopian monarch must be Protestant. Although Eutopia enjoys a diversity of religious faiths which must be respected and celebrated, we should not forget our heritage as a protestant Christian nation.

Originally posted by J. Banér
I don't think the pope should decide who should be Bishop in Euthopia. I neither think the King should, that should the Bishops decide, but anyway its a marking that the King is HoS and not the Pope or his appointed Bishops.

Bishops of the ACE are elected through our General Synod after a process of nomination, prayer, and deliberation. I may misunderstand you on this point, but I must make clear that if a monarch is installed at some future date, he will most likely have no authority over the internal workings of the ACE. Any connection or possible establishment will be largely symbolic.

Originally posted by J. Banér
I as you, think the coronation should be as Napolons or Karl XII of Swdens' that the monarch self put the crown on s/hes head as a sign that the power come from God. But the first King in the new royal house should be crowned by the Archbishop and one political leader, but when he pass away and his son/daughter takes over she should be crowned as I mentioned above.

Although discussing details of the coronation is premature at this point, we believe that it should always be performed by one or more members of the nation's Christian clergy. Although a monarch is sovereign, s/he must still answer to the Almighty, ultimate sovereign of all mankind. Any monarch must take this subordination to God very seriously.

I appreciate your continued cooperation with the ACE.

Yours in Christ,
Bishop Edward

[A duplicate of this letter has been placed on the Anglican Church of Eutopia thread]

 

[Gathenhielm]

Originally posted by J. Banér
Gatenhielm, you are now members of the glourious (RPE)

Thanks. What more can I say? Watch out for the anglians!

Comments on the party program

Government:
Eiuthopia shold have a King/Queen as HoS and a prime minister as head of government. The King should not gain any power the power should be in the hands of the parliament. But RPE are offcourse loyal to the President, and will also has as goal to achive the post of president. But want a King.

Agree.

Laws:
The current punsihments are good and sholdn't be changed. Criminlas know what they are doing and have to face the consequenses. Abortion shold be legal. We dont tolerate any drugs.

Maybe a new way to execute people? Hanging is so old-fashioned

Military:
Euthopia need a strong army, navy and airforce to defend its borders. Therefore the military budget need to be raised.

Agree

Economy:
Offcourse we want a capitalistic economy, but the state should buy and run a lot of companys to earn money, so we don't need to raise the taxes or even can lower them.
"Money makes the worlds goes round" we most discuss the economy.

Interesting idea. But What companies?

Education:
All have right to education

Agree

Health:
The hospitals should not be private. And all people who need healthcare should get it free in the hospitals. All old people who need help or need to live in special homes should be able to do that.

Maybe private alternitives?

Minorities:
All minorities shold be handle equal.

Agree. I would put it this way. All Eutopians should be treated equal.

Immigration:
Immigration should be strict controlled but not abolished.

You mean keep it the way it is now?

 

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Greetings,

Pardon the Intrusion, but I thought that I should note that Prince Freidrich von Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, who seems to be the most qualified candidate for the EUtopian Throne, has joined the Free Republican party as the best party to protect EUtopian traditions and yet ensure a bright future for our people.

We consider this further proof of the plausibility of our two parties' possibilities for close cooperation. If you are willing to discuss viable options, please feel free to contact me either at FR HQ or via personal correspondance (OOC-PM).

Thank you for your time and attention.
Most Sincerely,
Sean Galloglaigh
Free Republicans.

 

[Gathenhielm]

Well I have nothing against it.

 

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Gatenhielm,

I have made some changes in the party platform, after your oppions, read them and tell me what you think of them.
I have been talking a bit with Mr Galloglah and I will inform you later when we have discuss a few things.

 

[Gathenhielm]

Originally posted by J. Banér
Gatenhielm,

I have made some changes in the party platform, after your oppions, read them and tell me what you think of them.


I have been talking a bit with Mr Galloglah and I will inform you later when we have discuss a few things.

Ok. Still wants to change hanging to injection, but no big deal.
The healthcare sounds good.
And I hope that with drugs you dont mean alcohol
Like the minorities.
Immigration maybe need some more details. But Im too tired now to come up with good ideas.


Ok.

 

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We need to get more txo more members if not we can't be registred and not participate in the comming elections we must start announcing.

 

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Sorry about entering your HQ without asking first but...

I would like you so look to the ECL Thread to see the finalized platform and comment where in your, or them ( mine ) HQ so we may, have a productive chat about it.

Vasco,Executive Secretary of the ECL

 

[Gathenhielm]

Okay here we go:

Wages
Seems resonable. I can only agree.

Working conditions
Nothing to complain about here either. In point 1 are the person emlployed by the state?

Health Care
I would rather see 50/50

Workers right
Looking good. Good basic stuff.


Education and training
1.Dunno. This mostly comes by itself and should not be done before High school

2. Agree

Employment policies
1. Agree
2. Would also see 50/50 here.
3. What are lay-off programs?
4. agree (If I get it right)

Retirement
1.More details
2.Sounds resonable
3. What is 13º mouth pension?


@J. Banér if it goes well with FR or another party maybe we can be on their list?

 

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Originally posted by Gathenhielm
Okay here we go:


3. What is 13º mouth pension?


@J. Banér if it goes well with FR or another party maybe we can be on their list?

That consist in the first month of the year, January ( just in case you didn't know ) The retired don't resieve great pesions so they should resieve double pensions in January so they can live better.

Vasco, executive secretary of the ECL