Router/Firewall FAQ: How to make it WORK!!!

[unmerged(23946)]

There's a field that says "IP Address of DMZ Host" and then after that it says "192.168.0." with a space at the end that fits 3 characters. Is that what you're talking about? And if it is, then all I need to do is add a 1 at the end and click enable?

 

[unmerged(14249)]

Johan just said elsewhere that Directplay specifies port range 47400-47700, not just 47624. If you're having trouble, try that full range.

That would make the three ranges required:

2300-2400
28800-29000
47400-47700

I haven't tested this myself. I just tell my firewall to allow hoi.exe to have access and that seems to be enough. But I don't have a router...

Andrew

 

[Silvercloud]

I tested it on my router works fine.... What I wonder about is if multiple players behind a router can play?

 

[Vissarion]

I tested it on my router works fine.... What I wonder about is if multiple players behind a router can play?

I don't think several people behind one router (same outside ip) can join the same outside game, but I'm not sure if a player behind the router hosts, if another player behind the router can join together with outside people. It should work, seeing that to the host you will have different ip's. Fairly certain the game has to be hosted behind the router though.

 

[Vissarion]

There's a field that says "IP Address of DMZ Host" and then after that it says "192.168.0." with a space at the end that fits 3 characters. Is that what you're talking about? And if it is, then all I need to do is add a 1 at the end and click enable?

You will have to enter 198 - your ip. This way the router will redirect the needed ports to to the machine with ip 198.168.0.198, which is you.

 

[Steel]

I don't think several people behind one router (same outside ip) can join the same outside game, but I'm not sure if a player behind the router hosts, if another player behind the router can join together with outside people. It should work, seeing that to the host you will have different ip's. Fairly certain the game has to be hosted behind the router though.

My experience of this was with EU2 back around 1.05 patch or so, may have changed since then.

System 1: Host behind NAPT router
System 2: Client on same LAN as the host (connected via separate switch)
System 3: Connected via Internet
System 4: Connected via Internet

Internet (3&4) <-> router <-> switch <-> LAN (1&2)

All players could connect without problem. System 2 did not receive any chat messages (public or private) in game. System 2 regularly crashed as well.

Probably a good idea to test this before gold and document if MP with mixed local and remote (ie other side of router) connects are supported.

 

[Hardstuff]

Agh... I read 7 pages with no useful information for me...!
For one mine is different... it is Netopia or something.... it uses pinholes (which, I think, is the things you are all on about) although it is different...

Pinhole Name: Any-God-damned-name
Protocol Select: TCP
External Port Start: Im guessing this is where I put the 2300 or... 23000
External Port End: Im guessing this is where I put 2400 or 24000
(then the 47624 when I create a new one, but do I put 2300 to 47624?? what?? help me!! please!!!)
Internal IP Address: My IP
Internal Port: I leave this blank, because I don't know what it is....


HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE! (Please?)


*kicks the router*

 

[unmerged(8319)]

I tried a lot of this stuff today on my Linksys Router. Unfortunately I was unsuccessfull.

I suspect I entered some options wrong - the Linksys menu simply doesn't fit the general description given in this thread.

What would be REALLY helpfull would be a specific advice of what to enter where. I read 30 times that you have to specify range 2300 to 2400 and so on. However, there are places and places to do that.

I guess actual screenshots would be a way to give bulletproof advice, but as an alernative, I'll simply ask if someone would mind telling me what to enter in the below fields.

These are the options I wonder about because the helpfile isn't giving any hints:
*MTU: enable/disable?
*DHCP server: enbale/disable? (I run PPPoE)
*Filter IP-adresses and ports: I assume none of these should be used?
*PPPoE passthrough: enable/disable?
*Port range: I assume this is where 2300 to 2400 ea. goes? Do I use both protocols or just TCP? It also asks for an IP, which should be my server IP (ends at 1)?
*Port Triggering: what to enter in triggering and forwarding? Forwarding everything didn't work.
*I have a long list of options in UPnP forwarding, but since I disabled UPnP elsewhere, I assume these are irrelevant?
*DMZ: is disabled since i gather it's either DMZ or specific forwarding. Not both?

 

[Vissarion]

Sgt. Bulldog, I'll try to answer your questions.


MTU - not quite sure what this is, I remember it as some value. Just try both I guess.

DHCP server - if this is enabled the router will automatically assign your pc an internal ip. The best option when you forward ports is to use a static ip, so that you don't have to change the forwarding rules every time your pc gets a new IP- Set this to disabled, and enter your ip in (XP) network properties/tcp-ip settings. Depending on your routers ip, it should be 192.168.2.xxx, 192.168.1.xxx or 192.168.0.xxx. Gateway should be your routers ip (192.168.0/1/2.1).

Filter ip-adresses - You should probably enable this, as the forwarding will open for the desired traffic. Should it not work you can try to disable it.

PPPoE passthrough - don't think that's relevant.

Port range/Port Triggering -Trigger port is 47624, port range is 2300-2400 and that other range which I don't remember. The ip should be your ip, which is the one you entered above (this is where you tell the router where it should send the ports).

UPnP is irrelevant (I think...). DMZ will open your computer completely, only use it if you can't get the forwarding to work.


I may not have been very clear on all points. Ask if you need more help on setting your IP or finding your ip etc.

 

[Vissarion]

Hardstuff: Fortunately for you my ISP modem is a Netopia router.

I don't have both internal and external port range settings, but I think you should put the same in both. Enter one range from 47624 to 47624, and one for 2300-2400, both to your IP.

You might also set external port range from 2300 to 2400 and internal port to 47624.

 

[unmerged(8319)]

DHCP server - if this is enabled the router will automatically assign your pc an internal ip. The best option when you forward ports is to use a static ip, so that you don't have to change the forwarding rules every time your pc gets a new IP- Set this to disabled, and enter your ip in (XP) network properties/tcp-ip settings. Depending on your routers ip, it should be 192.168.2.xxx, 192.168.1.xxx or 192.168.0.xxx. Gateway should be your routers ip (192.168.0/1/2.1).

For the record I run win98, but I doubt it makes much of a difference. Nice of you to point out potential changes outside the router though. Anything else than those options?

Filter ip-adresses - You should probably enable this, as the forwarding will open for the desired traffic. Should it not work you can try to disable it.

In the on-line help it says those filters are for preventing networkusers access to certain parts of the internet. Ie. to block some ports. That's what it says anyway, and if that's true, I shouldn't use filters since I obviously have blockings enough allready

Port range/Port Triggering -Trigger port is 47624, port range is 2300-2400 and that other range which I don't remember. The ip should be your ip, which is the one you entered above (this is where you tell the router where it should send the ports).

Here's the tricky part and - I think - the reason why the Linksys users go awry. All the instructions so far in this thread seems to assumne that info is entered in just one place, but as I am going to demonstrate by the below screenshots, it is kind of confusing at first sight how that is handled in Linksys.

I may not have been very clear on all points. Ask if you need more help on setting your IP or finding your ip etc.

Please comment on these screenies that I intend to update as we (hopefully) get closer to a solution. If so, perhaps the poor Linksys users can use this part of the thread as a type-in instruction (?)

(removed confusing screenshots)

I definately suppose this is wrong, because why have two different menusections if the content is supposed to be identical?

PS: my router is located at 192.168.1.1 (not 0)

 

[gzav]

In the IP adress field, i think you have to put your pc's ip and not the router's...So, you put 192.168.1.101 or whatever it is, and it should work (on a linksys router too).
I don't see what the port triggering is though, i only have Port forwarding and DMZ.

 

[Vissarion]

OK, that makes it a little more clear. The second screenie looks very much like my previous router.

In triggered range, enter 47624 to 47624
Forwarded range 2300-2400

This was enough with my previous router. I don't know if the ports used have changed, but you might have to enter another one with 47624 as trigger port and 28800-29000 as forwards.
This is my setup:

You would just have to add another line with the same triggering port for 28800-29000.

Remove the checkmarks for the port forwarding, and leave the triggering as I wrote above. This makes it so that the ports are only opened when used by HoI, unlike port forwarding which leaves the ports constantly open.

Good luck!


Remove the checkmarks for the port forwarding, and leave the triggering as I wrote above. This makes it so that the ports are only opened when used by HoI, unlike port forwarding which leaves the ports constantly open.

Good luck!

 

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Hi, i have a question.

My friend seems to be with an ISP that use a NAT. I mean that his router IP is not the same as the IP on www.showmyip.com. Is it possible to do something about this and play EU2 ?

Thanks
Philippe

Bump! hiha!

 

[Vissarion]

Bump! hiha!

You must give more info, like what router he has.

Basically he needs to forward ports 47624, 2300-2400 and 28000-29000.

 

[unmerged(8319)]

I can't believe it was this simple! I have messed around with a gazillion options, but in fact all that was needed was this:

I guess Linksys owners should from now on stand a better chance at getting some direct help here!

Thanks to Vissarion and others.

Now, if everyone else would post a screenie for each type of router, we'd have a REAL FAQ. Not a 7-page thread of complaints and tech talk/shots in the dark.

If we could have a couple of screen shots, I'll suggest this thread is tidied up and turned into a real sticky FAQ while this mess is sent to the bottom of the forum

 

[Vissarion]

Glad it worked out for you

I've already made a config thread in the MP forum, it's stickied and called Router configuration library. Post your setup there!

 

[unmerged(8319)]

Good. One more Q though: if I can connect no problem, can I be sure that nothing in my play is disturbed by the router then?

I'm asking because I had a ctd yesterday in multiplay. Ofc. it could be for a hundred different reasons, but I just wondered...?

 

[Vissarion]

A ctd isn't caused by the router. Only connection losses can be blamed on it, unless it somehow breaks down and feeds HoI with signals too weird to handle

 

[Van Engel]

Could someone help me? I'm getting kinda desperate now. Has anyone had problems with a Speedtouch Router? I've gone through the whole utilty and I can't find where to change the Ports. So does anyone know what I can do?