Rostov principality

[NikitaDirigable]

In 1444 year was Rostov principality.
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Muscovy_1300-1462.png
Rostov principality have borders with Tver and Yaroslavl, and Moscow.

 

[magnusvejby]

Can you come with a English map/wikipedia link since i dont understand Russian

But if its true, and it had a sice of a province or more, so it can fit in the game, i totaly support your idea

 

[NikitaDirigable]

Can you come with a English map/wikipedia link since i dont understand Russian

But if its true, and it had a sice of a province or more, so it can fit in the game, i totaly support your idea

I don't have english map. Write: Rostov - Ростов, Tver - Тверь, Yaroslavl - Ярославль, Moscow - Москва.

 

[DmUa]

No. Even map shows that Rostov ceased to be independent in 1328 and since 1433 Rostov was actually already ruled by Moscow regents. At best you can ask for Rostov to be a vassal or just get their own cores, but definitely not independence.

 

[Demetrios]

So, going from a couple of websites, it appears that Rostov was split in two in 1328. Half was sold to Moscow in 1425, the other half in 1474. And by the mid-1400s, they were ruling with a representative of the Muscovite government looking over their shoulders.

http://rusmania.com/central/yaroslavl-region/rostov-veliky/history/http://rusmania.com/central/yaroslavl-region/rostov-veliky/history/
For the basics

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/RUSSIA, Rurik.htm#_Toc360004833
For more in-depth genealogical stuff (which confirms the info on the first site, but also includes the date of 1425 when Ivan Andreievich of Rostov sold his half to Moscow).

So, Rostov's independence was apparently very tenuous by the time of the game's start...

 

[NikitaDirigable]

So, going from a couple of websites, it appears that Rostov was split in two in 1328. Half was sold to Moscow in 1425, the other half in 1474. And by the mid-1400s, they were ruling with a representative of the Muscovite government looking over their shoulders.

http://rusmania.com/central/yaroslavl-region/rostov-veliky/history/http://rusmania.com/central/yaroslavl-region/rostov-veliky/history/
For the basics

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/RUSSIA, Rurik.htm#_Toc360004833
For more in-depth genealogical stuff (which confirms the info on the first site, but also includes the date of 1425 when Ivan Andreievich of Rostov sold his half to Moscow).

So, Rostov's independence was apparently very tenuous by the time of the game's start...

Then need province Rostov, which was between provinces Yaroslavl and Tver.
Rostov must was protectorate of Moscow.