Rome... is fun! :o

[Teurlinx]

I once bought EU:Rome, played it and was hugely disappointed. I considered the €40,- a donation to a worthy cause.

Now after picking up VV during the 200k celebration - even though I once vowed not to waste a single penny on this game anymore - I find myself immensely enjoying it!

I guess the donation really was better spent than I could imagine in my wildest dreams.

Thanks for sticking with the game and making it shine!

 

[KPamplona]

It is fun......and its only going to get better

 

[Emperor Leo]

Glad you're enjoying the game! I've noticed a couple of other newcomers to the game here and it's great to see Rome getting some attention. Spread the word! Rome needs our support! Roma Victor!

 

[UniversalWolf]

Yeah, it's a really good game. I like it every bit as much as EU3.

Now, if we can just get one more expansion for it...

 

[Teurlinx]

Yeah, it's a really good game. I like it every bit as much as EU3.

Now, if we can just get one more expansion for it...

I don't really see it happen though. Look at this board, no offense, but lively isn't exactly what comes to mind. Persistent fanboyism is what made sure that there came a HTTT, Vicky 2, and undoubtedly a CK2 eventually.

Rome I don't know, I think many who've bothered to try it were disappointed and never looked back. (like me)

The game feels 10x more alive with that new senate system though. I remember EU:R 1.0 as utterly bland & boring. Like EU:3 1.0, just without all the added stuff that made EU3 worthwhile eventually, and a smaller map.

 

[phantomrider]

Rome and fun

I have always liked Rome-- first version I got as a late comer was VV. Went back to it when HOI3 was such a problem and now I can't get away from it long enough to get HOI3 1.4 a trial. Big deal for someone who considers himself a WWII historical gamer primarily. Waiting to see how the latest beta turns out as a patch. When you are old the synapses don't work to learn the new language so you can mess with files and have something good happen as is required with the beta.

 

[Teurlinx]

I have always liked Rome-- first version I got as a late comer was VV. Went back to it when HOI3 was such a problem and now I can't get away from it long enough to get HOI3 1.4 a trial. Big deal for someone who considers himself a WWII historical gamer primarily. Waiting to see how the latest beta turns out as a patch. When you are old the synapses don't work to learn the new language so you can mess with files and have something good happen as is required with the beta.

Imagine a Rome without VV if you can. It was like EU:3 1.0, it 'worked' but it wasn't any fun. HoI3 1.0 was rather feature rich in comparison (though suffering in the buggy, broken & unbalanced departments)

To be perfectly honest, however much I like Paradox, I've never liked any of their first releases, the love always came after the first - patched - expansion pack. (The exception would be HoI2 which I got when it already was heavily patched)

This has been posted a million times, I know. Paradox never fails in delivering a great game in the end. I just fear that many customers who experience the 1.0 versions get very disappointed and never return to the game.

Why this happened for EU:Rome stronger than the other games I don't really know. I think because it felt more like a gimmick version of EU:3 with a much smaller map, slightly updated graphics and some CK family trees thrown in. Maybe just because the antique period is less popular. Maybe because many of the 'lingo' is quite confusing: propraetor, censor, consul, proconsul, etc.

 

[Cheexsta]

I don't really see it happen though. Look at this board, no offense, but lively isn't exactly what comes to mind. Persistent fanboyism is what made sure that there came a HTTT, Vicky 2, and undoubtedly a CK2 eventually.

For what it's worth, Doomdark recently expressed in the Seleucid complaint thread (IIRC?) that he was personally interested in making another expansion. Reading between the lines, though, it sounds like not many others from Paradox were. So if it does happen, it'll certainly be after Vicky 2 gets a few patches...

Rome I don't know, I think many who've bothered to try it were disappointed and never looked back. (like me)

Indeed, I think that happened to most people. Even some of those who stuck with the game ended up leaving it for various reasons after a while - like Descartes, who was an active modder for much of the game's release. I also burned out a couple of times, and I'm sure we're not the only ones.

In any case, I'm glad that you've discovered the expansion and find the game interesting again. I hope that others who dropped the game before 2.0 see this and decide to give it a try as well

 

[Despaxas]

I got into it recently. So I have no idea what it was like before VV. All I can say is: it's damned good now

I've actually given up playing HttT, for now anyways.

 

[unmerged(74372)]

I'm enjoying it as well , partly because I like the time period, but also cause it feels better then the EU3 I remember. Tho still the lack of options in comparison to EU3 might keep EU3 players away from Rome. But maybe who knows that more will come back to Rome since they won't play Vicky and played EU3 for too long.

 

[vanin]

I play and enjoy it "in waves", usually with me playing nothing but Rome for a week then bouncing onto something else for the next 3 and then back to square one ^^
It is a good game, no denying that, and the modding community is probably one of the most talented around compared to the few souls active in this barren forum. There is alot of heart and good features in Rome, it just takes some pretty good modding to let it loose at this point.

 

[Emperor Leo]

For what it's worth, Doomdark recently expressed in the Seleucid complaint thread (IIRC?) that he was personally interested in making another expansion. Reading between the lines, though, it sounds like not many others from Paradox were.

Possibly not. A little while back, I put this question to Paradox:

What is the general feeling about EU Rome at Paradox? Judging by the relative inactivity on the Rome forum and general comments, it's suggested that Rome is a fairly weak title. Do you feel that you achieved your goals with Rome?

This is the reply that I got (from Balor):

Lots of the people at the team love Rome and want to make expansions or sequels to it in the future.

This is in no way a confirmation of an expansion or sequel, but it lifts the spirits slightly.

This is from the Ask Paradox (Almost) Anything thread (page 13).

 

[unmerged(74372)]

When did you ask? Cause this could mean Rome after vicky after all, instead of CK2 or maybe new IP.

 

[Emperor Leo]

When did you ask?

7th April 2010

Cause this could mean Rome after vicky after all, instead of CK2 or maybe new IP.

As much as I'd like this to be the case, "the future" could mean anything. Could even be years from now before we see an expansion or sequel.

 

[unmerged(74372)]

True, but being it so recently I think quite some people will prefer to be making a sequel to Rome instead of a new IP since they feel the haven't take all out of the Rome IP yet, also hopefully more will favour Rome above CK2, if all this is not true then atleast I would expect a expansion.

And it seems the Rome forums is being revived slightly be a few newcomers?

 

[nachinus]

I hadn't read that question, Emperor. Thanks for informing us!. It is indeed good news, I really hope there is a new expansion. In fact, if I could choose what to get from Pdox next, I'd choose an expansion for Rome. Over CK2, HoI3 announced expansion and perhaps even over Vicky2. I wouldn't know how to explain it, but I just love this game and I'm sure that it's the Pdox title with more room for expansion.

 

[Emperor Leo]

I hadn't read that question, Emperor. Thanks for informing us!

No worries! I like to stand up for Rome, as it's my favourite Paradox game.

I wouldn't know how to explain it, but I just love this game and I'm sure that it's the Pdox title with more room for expansion.

Same here. I've got Victoria, EU3, HOI2 and CK, but none of them gripped me as Rome did. Rome has a fairly kind learning curve and I'm still learning new things about the game almost 2 years on from release. Victoria and HOI2 were just horrifying to learn, CK was just too dated for me and EU3 lacked the character connections which I grew to love in Rome.

Rome is like a goldmine of oppertunity. The only thing which stops me playing is the lack of country choice or at least, variations in countries.

 

[Cheexsta]

Ah, good to hear that I was possibly reading too far into Doomdark's comment. The one I'm referring to is this:

I see the Seleucids as an interesting mid - and even late - game challenge. Yes, it is tricky to defeat them when playing Pontus or similar, but it is doable. (I played a recent game as Pontus, and did well.) Are they fairly balanced? Maybe not, but I do not see it as huge problem. As for an expansion, all I can say is that I personally would love to do another one. There is a lot of mileage left in EU:Rome.

 

[UniversalWolf]

I don't really see it happen though. Look at this board, no offense, but lively isn't exactly what comes to mind.

True, but unless it's my imagination there has been an influx of a few new players lately. I don't think the situation is hopeless, at least.

 

[Cheexsta]

Indeed, new players seem to come and go in waves. When VV hit the cyber-shelves this place was actually pretty busy.