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Will there be a DD on this important nation? I don't know what it is, but Romania was my favorite nation to play as, both in HOI 3 and Darkest Hour besides that, they had the 3rd largest European Axis Army during world war II and despite lacking good leadership and having outdated equipment, Romanian Friendship was absolutely necessary for the Germans because of the Romanian oil Fields. Anyway I have something to read while I am waiting
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I suspect we won't get a DD on individual minors, although if we're lucky we might get a DD on a collection of smaller nations (although I still think this is unlikely). Given earlier comments from the devs about only the majors getting national focus trees for launch, I'd expect Romania (and the other traditional Axis minors) to be given some love via DLC. I deffo agree they'd be very high on the list of minor nations to warrant it (China, if it doesn't get a tree, being the only one clearly in front).
 
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Probably won't be a DD unless they've covered all the content and are scrapping for ideas to hold people over. Romania is interesting though, with its oil reserves it has a lot of potential no matter what side it takes.
 

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I guess we're not counting Japan, which had over 6,000,000 in the IJA at it's height. That's not countring the IJN.
Sorry, what I meant to say was 3rd largest European Axis Army
 
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#1. I don't think we will get DDs on minor/aspiring powers. The game looks to be in an advanced state as it is, we have plenty weeks to go, of course, but some of the big nations and major mechanics were not covered by DDs so far. So I doubt we will get to the point where they need to tell us the details of such nations.

#2. Poland and Romania were mentioned during livestreams, playthroughs and we kind of know that their role is significant enough. Should add Yugoslavia to the list, but I don't remember reading or hearing anything specific about them.

#3. These nations don't really need individualised focus trees, their goals were quite similar and faced pretty similar political dilemmas. But their individualisation would make them more interesting to play as, I guess.

My hope and speculation from the information we have so far is that the role of such countries is influenced by the resources and factories recreated in the game to some degree. For example, the role of Romania as an oil supplier for Germany is quite neglected in HoI3, in fact, it barely has enough for it's own motorised campaigns if you choose to produce such units. Other small things can impact gameplay: for example, Romania's dependency on fabrication patents or imports from external partners, especially from the Skoda factories is not coverable in HoI3 (except maybe for the names of equipment units were assigned, which was a very nice touch). I'm curious if that can change in HoI4, especially because brands play a bigger role this time around. The Skoda factories "change in management" in 1939 is an interesting turning point for Romania, as its army was depending on imports from there and the government failed to sign any deals with France or Britain to provide its army with ANY alternatives. That one event, an external one at that, narrowed down the political alternatives from that point forward - for a game, such scenarios can create emergent gameplay if exploited properly. Now if it were possible to add such options to diplomatic deals, a small country can develop some tech that would make its factories a regional supplier, an alternative and a new strategic POI in the game. So small things like that can have a really juicy impact on gameplay and we've seen minor hints of that (for bigger nations so far, going for one Germany manufacturer rather than another for producing tanks) and we've seen hints that Romania is a natural choice for oil trading. It would be nice if smaller countries can influence the game because of the addition of any such feature and if this can exploited strategically, that would be awesome for gameplay, even if you don't actually play as one of these countries.

Another interesting aspect Paradox can introduce about these aspiring nations is in the pacts they can make with each other. A central-european alliance can create some interesting game dynamics, what if they choose to help each other by defending Czechoslovakia in 1938, without the help of Great Britain and France?
 
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I'm sure there is some surprises that should await us. After all, I think folks want to see what was cooked up for the minors that had their own tank industry (no matter how minor it may have been seen from the majors). So, we're all curious what is down the line. For Romania, it would probably be a mix of various allied and axis lend lease style tanks or at least on the surface it would look like that. No clue if they will allow you to buff your own military industries to the point there would be "new" designs or how other minors can be played differently (like a second Roman Empire Romania styled?).
 

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Pfff, puny Romanians! Magyar stronk! Dicsőség Magyarországra!
Oh hungarians...when you will ever stop:(
Noooow back on topic i would love to see individual focus tree's for every minor in the balkans region there are simply so many posibilities, personaly it will be cool as Romania to have a focus where you can create the little entente with Cehoslovakia Yugoslavia and Bulgaria maybe? It would give these nations a chance to carve a future for themselves since they won.t be axis soviet or allies affiliated.
 
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Oh hungarians...when you will ever stop:(
Noooow back on topic i would love to see individual focus tree's for every minor in the balkans region there are simply so many posibilities, personaly it will be cool as Romania to have a focus where you can create the little entente with Cehoslovakia Yugoslavia and Bulgaria maybe? It would give these nations a chance to carve a future for themselves since they won.t be axis soviet or allies affiliated.
I'm not actually Hungarian, I just prefer it to Romania in HOI games. I like to rebuild the old Hungarian Kingdom and even conquer the old Magyar steppes.
 

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I'm not actually Hungarian, I just prefer it to Romania in HOI games. I like to rebuild the old Hungarian Kingdom and even conquer the old Magyar steppes.
If this is the case then im sorry i just tought you were trying to deviate the thread from the main topic and bring along a dispute witch is not apropriate for a gaming forum if not full out interdicted by paradox's rules.(believe me its a sensible subject)
You have my sincere apologies and yeah a Hungary game could be verry interesting as well many options i can just hope the focus tree would reflect that aswell.
 
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It's Italy 3rd an Romania 4th. But the man said European, and since Japan is not in Europe as far as I know, we have Italy 2nd and Romania 3rd largest European axis army.
 
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It's Italy 3rd an Romania 4th. But the man said European, and since Japan is not in Europe as far as I know, we have Italy 2nd and Romania 3rd largest European axis army.
In Europe isn't it Germany, Italy, Romania etc. ??
 
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