Roman Republic

[Giuse]

Hi!

So I've finally managed to create the Byzantine Republic in ironman, but there are few very odd things I was hoping to get some explaination on.

A very quick background: started off as a norse count, got Rome, formed republic of Latium, swore fealty to the Emperor, managed to get a family member a weak claim, designated him as heir and finally pressed his claim when I got to play him.

Odd things:
1. Designated heir seems to be broken. I have a midas touched kinsman designated as heir and shown as successor in the tab with the 5 merchant families. However, a different kinsman (not even at court - this one is born in the purple) is shown as successor under my character. The succession is not for the empire, since that at the moment would go to a different family. Also, no despot honorary title is available.

2. My demesne consists of: County of Rome (Capital) + 2 barony castles and 3 cities within, the counties of constantinople and alexandria. I also have the duchy of latium, Italy and ERE. Upon succession I would lose everything except constantinople and alexandria. This is odd since I always get to keep the baronies within the capital county! What's going on?

3. Last thing. My plan was to give away Italy to a vassal doge and get the duchy of Latium de-jure drift into a titular kingdom (eg Pisa or Genoa). However I cant give Italy away, which is a huge pain since I'm sitting at 50+ vassals. Maybe I cant give away the kingdom containing the capital? is there a way to get around this?

Thanks a lot for any suggestion/clarification!

 

[Dragatus]

I can't help you with the first two problems, but in regard to the third one I believe the issue is that it's not possible to grant kingdoms to republican and theocratic characters (and you can also only ever give them a single duchy). If you want to give it away, you'll have to find a feudal character, but that will create a powerful vassal with a "wrong government type" opinion penalty.

Are all your vassals duke level? If any are count level you can simply transfer vassalage to a duke and get under the limit that way.

 

[StarSword]

I can't help you with the first two problems, but in regard to the third one I believe the issue is that it's not possible to grant kingdoms to republican and theocratic characters (and you can also only ever give them a single duchy). If you want to give it away, you'll have to find a feudal character, but that will create a powerful vassal with a "wrong government type" opinion penalty.

Are all your vassals duke level? If any are count level you can simply transfer vassalage to a duke and get under the limit that way.

Actually, the issue is that you cannot give kingdoms or second duchies to characters of a different government type. You cannot create a vassal serene doge/prince mayor or king-bishop as a feudal emperor, but you can create a vassal prince mayor as a grand prince. He'll be an ordinary republic, though, not a merchant republic.

By the same token you cannot create a vassal king as a grand prince.

 

[Giuse]

Actually, the issue is that you cannot give kingdoms or second duchies to characters of a different government type. You cannot create a vassal serene doge/prince mayor or king-bishop as a feudal emperor, but you can create a vassal prince mayor as a grand prince. He'll be an ordinary republic, though, not a merchant republic.

Uhmm.. I have vassal king-tier repubics, but I am also able to grant king-tier viceroyalty to feudal dukes. So I do have vassal kings as well. Although, I haven't tried to give them the regular (non vieroyalty) title.

The successor thing seems to be ok now, I think the born in the purple guy died and that fixed it. I'm still losing the baronies upon succession, so I'll probably just give them to the heir when this character gets old.

 

[StarSword]

Uhmm.. I have vassal king-tier repubics, but I am also able to grant king-tier viceroyalty to feudal dukes. So I do have vassal kings as well. Although, I haven't tried to give them the regular (non vieroyalty) title.

The successor thing seems to be ok now, I think the born in the purple guy died and that fixed it. I'm still losing the baronies upon succession, so I'll probably just give them to the heir when this character gets old.

Okay, that sounds like feudal viceroyalties are an exception.