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I am planning a France to Roman Empire campaign. I am wondering, does forming it give you different unit sprites, or will you just get yours colored red?
 

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france? Pfff... Try aragon :D Feed castile richest barber lands and annex him free . control entire mediterrian sea with ultimate galleys and when you are strong enought make britanny and france become best buddies just to have hope aganist you :cool:

note:Ofcourse you gonna keep ideas of aragon when you form spain... since colonial ideas means nothing at roman empire run :D
 

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france? Pfff... Try aragon :D Feed castile richest barber lands and annex him free . control entire mediterrian sea with ultimate galleys and when you are strong enought make britanny and france become best buddies just to have hope aganist you :cool:

note:Ofcourse you gonna keep ideas of aragon when you form spain... since colonial ideas means nothing at roman empire run :D

As Aragon imho you gotta no cb byz and call in half of europe to wreck ottos immediately, makes the game a lot easier..also let your dynasty die and get the french one, since you got naples in a pu you can't fall under PU without claim the throne. When you built your power base (Spain, Anatolia, Egypt) just PU France

Spanish ideas are still better because they make your armies better, navy and trade aren't that important. If you control Otto land you are rich anyway

Edit: also I wouldn't feed Castile any berber land, you only need the coast anyway for mare nostrum so just core it once you got admin ideas. Castile will eat granada and vassalize navarra and when they get the full inheritance that's exactly the amount of provinces that still allows for the decision. Getting the netherlands for 0 AE is much more important than berber land. If Burgundy conqueres stuff from Provence/Lorraine/Liege than it doesn't work, so maybe you gotta make them release provinces before.
 
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As Aragon imho you gotta no cb byz and call in half of europe to wreck ottos immediately, makes the game a lot easier..also let your dynasty die and get the french one, since you got naples in a pu you can't fall under PU without claim the throne. When you built your power base (Spain, Anatolia, Egypt) just PU France

Spanish ideas are still better because they make your armies better, navy and trade aren't that important. If you control Otto land you are rich anyway

Edit: also I wouldn't feed Castile any berber land, you only need the coast anyway for mare nostrum so just core it once you got admin ideas. Castile will eat granada and vassalize navarra and when they get the full inheritance that's exactly the amount of provinces that still allows for the decision. Getting the netherlands for 0 AE is much more important than berber land. If Burgundy conqueres stuff from Provence/Lorraine/Liege than it doesn't work, so maybe you gotta make them release provinces before.
no cb byzantium? Do I look like a newbie that need cheesy tacts? I just hit hard over and over again and done no more ottoman.(I .... just reached jerusalem before they could... yea more dev does this :D

spanish armies might be better with their ideas but rembember: To form roman empire you gonna use navy: A LOT!
Aganist england:Navy
aganist ottoman:Navy
Aganist anyone in italy:Navy

Galley combat abilty can be huge if you are aiming for roman empire trust me :)
 

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no cb byzantium? Do I look like a newbie that need cheesy tacts? I just hit hard over and over again and done no more ottoman.(I .... just reached jerusalem before they could... yea more dev does this :D

spanish armies might be better with their ideas but rembember: To form roman empire you gonna use navy: A LOT!
Aganist england:Navy
aganist ottoman:Navy
Aganist anyone in italy:Navy

Galley combat abilty can be huge if you are aiming for roman empire trust me :)

The designation of "cheesy strats" consistently results in players setting arbitrary and self-inconsistent thresholds for what is cheesy. Let's not be looking down on others utilizing more effective methods.
 

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I did it as Florence -> Tuscany -> Italy -> Rome. It was pretty fun.

The most rewarding thing is that all the provinces you control will revert back to their old Roman names.
It was worth it, just for the geography lesson, alone.
To see all the old Roman names on the map, you get to see what the newer/medieval (modern in some cases) names evolved from.

I thought it was fascinating to study the old Roman names, and using my rudimentary knowledge of various European languages... try to figure out how so many names changed over time into what you see in 1444, or even today.

"Ahh, so that's where the newer names came from. Now it all makes sense. I had no idea."

Well worth it to from the Roman Empire at least once... just for the map.






(Btw, you might want to do what I did... I converted ALL Italians to Tuscan, because when you (re)form the Roman empire, all your primary culture will convert to 'Roman' -- which is a lost culture. If I hadn't converted all the other Italians, they would've been non-accepted cultures. -Because I was now in the "lost cultures" culture group -- not Italian culture group. I.e., you lose your old culture group, when you become 'Roman'.)

Also, when you form the Roman Empire, you have to play this music: (go to around 1:50)
 
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note:Ofcourse you gonna keep ideas of aragon when you form spain... since colonial ideas means nothing at roman empire run :D

This is quite wrong. Colonies can make you a lot of money both from trade and tariffs. Money is a big part of what fuels serious late-game conquest.

spanish armies might be better with their ideas but rembember: To form roman empire you gonna use navy: A LOT!
Aganist england:Navy
aganist ottoman:Navy
Aganist anyone in italy:Navy

Galley combat abilty can be huge if you are aiming for roman empire trust me :)

Also wrong. Navies and naval supremacy are very much in the 'nice to have' category. Land supremacy is essential. The other thing is that all you need to dominate the water is lots of heavies. How do you get lots of heavies? Have lots of money. See above.
 

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Curiosity: are there additional events once you form the Roman Empire? Or do you just get the TAG plus the culture and ideas?
you getting worse culture (Not sure if a bug... I thought all your lands convert to roman culture when you form it but instead only my main culture converted into roman culture) group by converting your own into it and get VERY STRONG ideas

no special event for roman empire since it didnt meant to exist in timeline
 

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Curiosity: are there additional events once you form the Roman Empire? Or do you just get the TAG plus the culture and ideas?

There are no events. It's not worth it to form Rome if you want to WC and you have CCR in your ideas already.

you getting worse culture (Not sure if a bug... I thought all your lands convert to roman culture when you form it but instead only my main culture converted into roman culture) group by converting your own into it and get VERY STRONG ideas

no special event for roman empire since it didnt meant to exist in timeline

The ideas are ok. Not as good as Ottoman, Mughal or other top tier ideas but the ideas aren't crappy like the default national ideas.
 

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There are no events. It's not worth it to form Rome if you want to WC and you have CCR in your ideas already.



The ideas are ok. Not as good as Ottoman, Mughal or other top tier ideas but the ideas aren't crappy like the default national ideas.
Definitely not trying a WC. Probably a France Run, not a lot of colonization and my two main objectives will be having a Duchy of Warsaw custom client state and a confederation of the rhine vassal state plus forming the roman empire if I manage