Roaring 20's, Rising Sun, and the Red Tide (1920 - 1933)

[|AXiN|]

It seems kind of inconsistent to have the OE as civilised in all the Victoria scenarios but not in one set after them. Also, the Kemal Ataturk events should kill off any claims to land outside of Turkey except Smyrna, Kurdistan and Armenia. I can look up stuff on the Treaty of Lausanne (peace treaty with OE) at uni if you like, my uni has the full text.

 

[unmerged(26209)]

The thing is that OE is only civilized because of balance in the game and uncivilizedin Voctorias wouldn't be appropriate, but during the era, the European Superpowers saw OE as uncivilized, I'm sure.
But OE after ww1 should be uncivilized! It's actaully really appropriate, since no one would take them seriously anymore.
As for Atatürk, could someone give a summary of what happened there as I know only very little?

 

[unmerged(26209)]

I've been starting to scetch a bit on some events. Here is the first one I made:

event = {         #The Death of Lenin
    id = xxxxx1

    trigger = {
        constitution = { type = proletarian_dictatorship }
    }
    random = no

    country = RUS

    name = "The death of Lenin"
    desc = "On January 21, 1924, Vladmir Ilyich Lenin died, age 53. Lenin had lead the country ever since the revulotion of 1917, and his death is a great tragedy for the nation."
    style = 0
       
    date = { day = 21 month = january year = 1924 } 
    offset = 30
    deathdate = { day = 21 month = january year = 1924 } 
       
    action_a = {
        name = "He was a great man" # He was a great man
        command = { type = pop_consciousness which = communist
                          value = 3  
		type = pop_consciousness which = socialist
                          value = 2 }

    }

}

What do you think? I didn't know what picture to use, so I didn't include any in the code.

 

[Zaan]

Why the country=RUS? Aren't we going to implement russian civil war? Isn't USSR going to use a different tag? Cause I can't imagine czarist russia mourning Lenin...

 

[unmerged(26209)]

I would rather propose keeping the RUS tag and using it for Soviet, but recycling one of the old German Minor tags for use as the rebels.

 

[Darkrenown]

Strategist, I'll have some spare time tomorrow, if you point me at a list of events you want made I'll start coding them.

 

[Strategist]

HCM: I think you have to delete the offset an deathdate and have to take the day = 20 to have it always trigger on 21 january 1924, the other part of your event is great.

DR: If you look here select a country, say England (Great Britain 1911-1941), and there you have a lot of events, both flaver and serious, here I will write the first few:

- 1919 Jan 2, There was an anti-British uprising in Ireland.
- 1919 Jan 5, British ships shelled the Bolshevik headquarters in Riga.
- 1919 Apr 4, Antony Tudor, choreographer (Metropolitan Opera 1957), was born in England.
- 1919 Apr 13, In the Amritsar Massacre British forces under the command of General Reginald Dyer killed hundreds of Indian nationalists in the thickly crowded plaza at Jallianwala Bagh.
- 1919 May 9, Arthur English, comedian, actor (Malachi's Cove), was born.
- 1919 May 18, Margot Fonteyn, ballet dancer, was born in Surrey, England.
- 1919 Jul 15, Iris Murdoch (d.1999), author of 28 novels (A Severed Head, The Black Prince), was born in Dublin.
- 1919 Jul 21, The British House of Lords ratified the Versailles Treaty. (Look for my german versailles event which you cn download in my first post)
And so on

 

[Strategist]

Your savefile seems to be corrupt... or my Victoria is.

I retested my save-file and even downloaded it and replaced my file, but it works correctly. However I used 1.03b to create it, do you have that too? If you have that and that isn't the problem what is it then? You should see the game in your saves list, can't you select it? Is it acting strange or giving errors when you select it? When you select a country it cannot start or CTD's on start? What's wrong?

 

[unmerged(26209)]

I can open it, but it says that it can't read a certain file (can't remember which at the moment) and then crashes to desctop.

 

[Darkrenown]

DR: If you look here select a country, say England (Great Britain 1911-1941), and there you have a lot of events, both flaver and serious,

I'll just go with your example and work on the UK. What ID range should I use?

 

[Darkrenown]

Oh, and looking at your german Versailles event, the desc is far too long, it'll cause errors. Are you planning to move that text into a database for the final version?

 

[unmerged(26901)]

yea id love to help, i just finished reading a book about the freikorps from 1919 till '33 so i could add quite a few german event ideas, im not too good at making events for victoria since i am a die hard hoi player and just got victoria and have not had time to look at the event structure however i can give you guys the event text, effects etc and you could put it in the proper format

 

[Darkrenown]

I need some more detailed info on irish home rule and Palestine. Anyone got a good source?

 

[unmerged(26209)]

I just had a thought on Transcaucasia.

Maybe we could do it the way the United Central America is done in Victoria. You get an event raising militancy (maybe we could do a two choice event that could make it possible or easier to keep transcaucasia) of all the minorities, and then they will revolt to form their own countries, unless you manage to stop them.
Soviet will later get an event to invade TC and/or any independt minor states over there.

 

[unmerged(18330)]

Wow, this sounds cool, I might do some research into happenings in British colonies/protectorates. This is an interesting question, though: Which countries should use the dominion model (Canada?, Australia, South Africa in '31), which should use the satellite model, and which should be under direct colonial control? I'll make events dealing with Iraqi rebellions and independence, and the Indian resistance movement.

 

[Strategist]

I am back again. Yes I know my Versailles is too long thats why I placed a # in front of it. ID range; for germany I used VIP germany + 200. but maybe + 500 would be saver?

EDIT: If anyone of you have some files, please send them to me so I can include them in the general progress .zip file, e-mail: gdesoeten@xs4all.nl

 

[Darkrenown]

I'll go with VIP + 500 then, still some VIP countries are going to reach that, but I suppose you can deal with that if it ever becomes an issue.

 

[Darkrenown]

Oh yeah, I'm running into a lot of problems because I don't know how the world is going to be set up. I think we should make the Scenario first and then make the events.

 

[Strategist]

On the first page of this thread we placed some pics of the world then, so you just have to look to get a good impression how the map have to look like, I also created a save file modded from the 1914 campaign and though it isn't ready it gives some impression how europa eill look like. Then, Russia will be divided in the reds and the whites. What do you need to know further? We didn't design a complete map because there were some guys already busy creating a map for this period and we asked them to join, but sofar no reaction from them.

 

[Darkrenown]

Just general stuff like who has what provinces, who uses what tags and which nations are satellites etc. Plus with the map done I can test events and see the results easier.
If you get tired of waiting on the map guys I can start on it, it'd be a nice change from event writing