River Crossing Penalty

[Sharples88]

Can somebody explain how I have a river crossing penalty that is -2 and how I got it in the first place?

My army of Swabia came from the north, the province of Fulda into Aschaffenburg. It already had a Clevian army in place, around 5k. My stack engaged this, the Bohemian army came in from Wurzburg.

What I'm not understanding is why the river penalty is -2, in most cases I've found it to be -1 but in rare occassions I've seen it jump to -2. From my knowledge you can negate a riving crossing penalty if your general has higher manoeuvre than the enemies general.

In this case, I clearly have way higher manoeuvre than both armies. There is no fort in the province I am engaging the battle in. Is the -2 associated with the size of the river? I'm so confused

 

[Classicgamer23]

This may be a bug, because -2 is usually reserved for straight crossings and naval landings.

 

[grotaclas]

To me it looks like a bug that you get a crossing penalty at all and that it is -2. Maybe you can look at the province if it displays and special modifier. And if you still have a save with this battle, you could hover over the -2 and see if the game might tell you more about it. A save would also be very helpful if you want to make a bugreport about it.

Edit: probably not a bug as @Flow__ pointed out

 

[Sharples88]

To me it looks like a bug that you get a crossing penalty at all and that it is -2. Maybe you can look at the province if it displays and special modifier. And if you still have a save with this battle, you could hover over the -2 and see if the game might tell you more about it. A save would also be very helpful if you want to make a bugreport about it.

Unfortunately I didn't think to save this. But the next time it happens I'll be sure to make a bug report on it. I know for the past few years I've had this bug happen here and there

 

[StefanFan]

Probably a flood

 

[Flow__]

If I remember correctly you get a -2 penalty if an exiled army engages an enemy army in the province they un-exile themselves in.

 

[grotaclas]

If I remember correctly you get a -2 penalty if an exiled army engages an enemy army in the province they un-exile themselves in.

Wow. I never noticed that. I tested it now and it looks like you are correct. And this -2 seems to even apply if there is no river crossing involved.

 

[Beagá]

Ouch... Good find!