Rivaling Country Does Not Lower Dip-Cost In Peace Deal Anymore

[delpiero1234]

Everything is in the title. Why?

In 1.3 setting country X to Rival would make peace negotiations with them cheaper. Instead of for example paying 50 dip points of for demanding vassalization it only cost 33.

Is this a bug or did I miss reading about this in the patch notes?

 

[LarryLeica]

No it still does. Use it all the time.

 

[unmerged(337549)]

I don't know about vassalization but something is wonky about annexing.

Taking provinces definitely still gets the discount however.

 

[Xara]

It doesn't discount one bit when you fully annex them.

And for some reason, the CB I used (as Iroquois against Chocktaw) had a 50 x province cost for full annexation, while taking everything BUT their capital cost zero. So clearly I picked the latter.

System doesn't really make sense.

 

[delpiero1234]

No it still does. Use it all the time.

Can you take a screenshot please?

It's for sure not working for me in my current The Hansa Ironman game.
I ravaled Münster and had to pay 50 dip points to vassalize them instead of the 33 it used to be in 1.3

It doesn't discount one bit when you fully annex them.

Same here. I think it's broken

Can a moderator please move this thread to the bug forum.

 

[LarryLeica]

Can you take a screenshot please?

It's for sure not working for me in my current The Hansa Ironman game.
I ravaled Münster and had to pay 50 dip points to vassalize them instead of the 33 it used to be in 1.3



Same here. I think it's broken

Can a moderator please move this thread to the bug forum.

Ah, I've only played seriously as Muscovy and Portugal in 1.4, so I've not bothered to vassalise anyone. Rival discount is still there on a per province basis most definitely. For a full annexation am not so sure, will need to go back in game and double check that but if others are reporting it not working as it should then I would definitely check.

 

[Xara]

See, this shot shows exactly what I'm talking about.

If I fully annex them (whether I rival or not) it costs 200 diplo power to take those 4 provinces!
But if I choose to annex, individually, 3 of those provinces (all but the capital), each of them takes... zero, for some reason?

Something is not right about this. Why would I overpay by 150 Diplo power when I could take all-but-one now and finish them off in a 2nd quick war for a 50 dip cost?

There's supposed to be a middle ground between these that is not working right. Why would I not be paying (50 dip x discounts) for these provinces no matter whether its full annexation or individually?

 

[LarryLeica]

See, this shot shows exactly what I'm talking about.

If I fully annex them (whether I rival or not) it costs 200 diplo power to take those 4 provinces!
But if I choose to annex, individually, 3 of those provinces (all but the capital), each of them takes... zero, for some reason?

Something is not right about this. Why would I overpay by 150 Diplo power when I could take all-but-one now and finish them off in a 2nd quick war for a 50 dip cost?

There's supposed to be a middle ground between these that is not working right. Why would I not be paying (50 dip x discounts) for these provinces no matter whether its full annexation or individually?

Just saw this... It's been reported already I believe: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?748703-Hotfix-open-beta&p=16735699&viewfull=1#post16735699

 

[BlaqkSkai]

I'm pretty sure it's wad.

Tooltip for rivalling says "-33.0% Diplomatic Power cost for demanding provinces from them in a peace deal." Annexation, vassalization, releasing nations, returning cores, etc. are not the same as demanding provinces so they should be at full cost and unaffected by rivalling.

EDIT: Although, annexation is under the "Cede Provinces" tab, so maybe annexation is bugged. Hard to say due to inconsistent wording.