Ringworlds around a Dyson Sphere?
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This sounds more bold than my idea to build wind farms on the moon. I mean look how much elevated empty space there is!
Realistically there should be no argument for why a dyson sphere can't include a "habitable belt" region in it. You'd just have to NOT collect the light and solar power in the belt where the light is needed to make the ring habitable.
That said, it would make the whole thing incredibly imbalanced, wouldn't it? You'd practically HAVE to pump out thousands of minerals per month and convert all your system into dyson spheres hulla-hooping ring worlds to stay competitive.
Well, unless the relations modifier for them is really, REALLY brutal and your allies could decide to leave the federation due to dyson envy, at least. That could turn out to be the only really limiting factor to how many cool space doodads you have - how pissed off your neighbours would get because they don't have them.
That said, it would make the whole thing incredibly imbalanced, wouldn't it? You'd practically HAVE to pump out thousands of minerals per month and convert all your system into dyson spheres hulla-hooping ring worlds to stay competitive.
Well, unless the relations modifier for them is really, REALLY brutal and your allies could decide to leave the federation due to dyson envy, at least. That could turn out to be the only really limiting factor to how many cool space doodads you have - how pissed off your neighbours would get because they don't have them.
Now you have me hoping they call a negative opinion modifier for having a Dyson Sphere Dyson Envy.
If you bring Dyson sphere (apart from the vacuum cleaner thingRealistically there should be no argument for why a dyson sphere can't include a "habitable belt" region in it. You'd just have to NOT collect the light and solar power in the belt where the light is needed to make the ring habitable.
That said, it would make the whole thing incredibly imbalanced, wouldn't it? You'd practically HAVE to pump out thousands of minerals per month and convert all your system into dyson spheres hulla-hooping ring worlds to stay competitive.
Well, unless the relations modifier for them is really, REALLY brutal and your allies could decide to leave the federation due to dyson envy, at least. That could turn out to be the only really limiting factor to how many cool space doodads you have - how pissed off your neighbours would get because they don't have them.
) or ringworlds (or even Klemperer Rosettes) to discussion you can forget 'realism'. However if you just consider that building a ringworld will consume all the planets in a system then building a Dyson sphere large enough radii to actually house a habitable ring would require resources and all the material from several dozens (or even hundreds) of systems.
You know what's really bothering me about Paradox's take on the Dyson Sphere.
You got it. Not a Sphere. That's a polyhedron. My immersion, RUINED.
You got it. Not a Sphere. That's a polyhedron. My immersion, RUINED.
Can't blame them though, "Dyson Soccer Ball" sounds a lot less palatableYou know what's really bothering me about Paradox's take on the Dyson Sphere.
You got it. Not a Sphere. That's a polyhedron. My immersion, RUINED.
You would have to build the ringworld within the sphere.
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You know what's really bothering me about Paradox's take on the Dyson Sphere.
You got it. Not a Sphere. That's a polyhedron. My immersion, RUINED.
It is really a geodesic sphere.
This is wrong. It would takemore materials to build it further out, but the engineering becomes orders of magnitude simpler.
This is due to the tidal forces that the rather flimsy structure of a dyson sphere would be subjected to, close to a star.
PBS spacetime did an episode on it. You should check it out.
If you bring Dyson sphere (apart from the vacuum cleaner thing
There is absolutely no reason for them to be seamless, though? You could leave a relatively thin stripe of the sphere as nothing but the supporting lattice structure and till let enough light escape to give natural sunlight to the ring significantly further out.
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You know what's really bothering me about Paradox's take on the Dyson Sphere.
You got it. Not a Sphere. That's a polyhedron. My immersion, RUINED.
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Yes, oddly, the smaller the black hole, the more energy you get from it. Here's a handy calculator I happen to have open in another tab: http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/
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I can easily see a way to make a system with both a Dyson sphere and a ringworld.
According to the dev diary, the megastructures are built in stages. First you build the frame, which would look like this:
...and then you start filling it in, until it looks like this:
"But what if I want to have my cake and eat it too?" you might ask. After all, having both a Dysons phere and a ring world would be so much better.
Simple. Don't finish the Sphere. Build it like this:
Voila! You now have a partial Dyson Sphere that harnesses most of the star's energy, while leaving a band exposed for ringworld inhabitants to enjoy. Nothing is wasted.
According to the dev diary, the megastructures are built in stages. First you build the frame, which would look like this:
...and then you start filling it in, until it looks like this:
"But what if I want to have my cake and eat it too?" you might ask. After all, having both a Dysons phere and a ring world would be so much better.
Simple. Don't finish the Sphere. Build it like this:
Voila! You now have a partial Dyson Sphere that harnesses most of the star's energy, while leaving a band exposed for ringworld inhabitants to enjoy. Nothing is wasted.
Well, I mostly made my post in jest but how is that solution redundant? A ringworld provides plenty of land to live on but most of the star's rays is still being "wasted." A Stellaris style Dyson sphere harnesses all of the star's rays but leaves all real-estate in the system a frozen wasteland. This is best of both worlds.
I meant build a Dyson Sphere AND a Ringworld is redundant. I mena sure you can add mechanics to fix them and all but why have both of them in 1 star anyway?