• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Originally posted by T. Fournier
Nice moves. How stand your relations with Poland, Moldovia and Golden Horde now you've left them to face the Turks ?

The last war was declared by Turkey on Mameluks, so the peace treaty signed on Jan.3, 1522 between Turkey and Mameluks, the last getting the control of Sivas province, ended hostilities between Turkey and other members of our alliance.

Regarding the relation of Poland-Lithuania, Moldova and Golden Horde toward Persia, well, they had a short-term casus belli on me but the relation is still neutral ranging from -10 to +15.

Thank you all for beeing with me :)

Cornelius.
 

Storey

StoreytellAAR
7 Badges
Mar 16, 2001
5.975
4
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For The Glory
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • 500k Club
Just wanted to jump on the band wagon with the others and say your doing great. Do you think that you can get to India before it's carved up between the usual European countries? It's a tempting prize.



Joe
 

nalivayko

General
49 Badges
Mar 15, 2001
2.487
257
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
Looks pleasing to an eye, I guess your ultimate goal would be to throw Turks from Asia Minor, i.e. from present Turkey? Can you conquer them completely or are they a major in the game?
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Originally posted by nalivayko
Looks pleasing to an eye, I guess your ultimate goal would be to throw Turks from Asia Minor, i.e. from present Turkey? Can you conquer them completely or are they a major in the game?

Nalivaiko,
Turkey was the country I replaced by Persia in .eug file, so it is not a major and my plans for them - No Turks in Asia Minor {at least}. But as you will see in next installments Uzbeks were the only nation on whom I declared war - the next wars were all defensive, not without land capture as peace resolution :) And I suppose sometimes in the future I will face the Russian Empire as they are very aggressive in their conquests - and they already have a Casus Belli on Persia for grabbing Uzbek lands {that have Russian ?tags? on them}.
Btw, thanks for being with me, and your Russian and Marrocan AARs I enjoy very much.

Storey, thanks for jumping in. Regarding India - it is still too far from me and it is "Unknown Land", but not for long time - my conquistador Manamah will soon chart those lands for Persia.

Cornelius.
 

unmerged(3438)

Captain
Apr 27, 2001
394
0
Visit site
I don't know wether you'll be getting more colonists soon but if not, once you've settled the present ones, maybe you should consider exploring : India or Siberia are your possibilities.
India is rich (chinaware, spices and cotton) but the population is big and not always very friendly. Furthermore you will face a lot of competition there (Portugal first but later on the Netherlands, France and England). Although it can be worthwile to pick up on their possessions I have some doubts wars there will be very profitable as you will have a hard time forcing peace with these opponents and they may be able to carve up your Mameluks allies. Furthermore I expect the local sunni countries (Mughals and Hyderabad if I remember correctly) not to be too thrilled with you following your forays into Turkish territory.
Siberia is rich too (furs), there are not many people and they are rather friendly, but more importantly there won't be much competition:) . Your main problem should arise only if and when russian expansion reaches your border.
So, I think I would advise you to try and get a (very) few well peopled colonies toward India for a manpower base there and mad (or as mad as possible) expansion in Siberia (colonies or traders, whatever's easiest) 'til you reach the Pacific ocean and China, where you will need some colonies to prevent anybody else from coming up your rear door.
Of course that's only my point of view and considering how well you've done by yourself my opinion shouldn't count for too much:) !
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
T.Fournier,

Thanks a lot for your comments and advice. The problem with my AAR is that I am 30 years ahead in gameplay, while writing is harder. About exploration you are right - this will be my first priority. But with colonisation - that could be a problem. I cannot count on random events for 1 to 3 colonists when for Siberia I need a continuous supply of them. I think that for time being I will close the Siberian gates from Europe until (and if) I will get a colonial dynamism or get myself a shipyard (not untul I will reach the respective naval tech). But hey, I am getting you my plans and you will not continue to read my AAR. So I will stop commenting and instead will post another part.

Cornelius.

P.S. Now, the next part.
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Persia. Part VI: 1524 - 1526

Year 1524

Our beloved monarch – hero of the Uzbek War, who also brought Persia to a mighty position in Asia Minor, died. A new king will rule Persia from now on – Thamasp I.

In Europe, Hessen is the first nation to throw out of the country all catholic priests and confiscate all the church property. The ruler of Hessen must be very brave to go against Catholicism and inaugurate Protestantism as the state religion. He now probably is hated by all Catholic nations.

Tax 151d. We send a group of colonists to Khorasan, Manamah already is awaiting them. With the remaining money we promote a tax collector in Karaganda – our young empire will need all the money it can gather from its citizens.

On March 1, colonists are successfully settled in Khorasan.

On November 29, the Pope declared war on our ally – Spain. This might be his way to punish the King of Spain for allying with two Muslim nations – Persia and Mameluks. Maybe this could fool other European rulers, but we know that the Pope is really after Mantua province, recently conquered by Spain from Venice. If the Papal States would not be allied with powerful European States, the Pope would not be so brave. France, Brittany, Lorraine and Navarra, all join the war against Spain. But Spain is also not left alone, all our allies join – Poland-Lithuania, Moldova, Mameluks, we and even Golden Horde. This war is too far from our sphere of influence and our Black Sea fleet is too small to carry enough troops to Europe to make any difference in this war.

Dec.9: First victim of Spain’s fury will be Navarra, as all Spanish Iberian troops are moving toward this tiny – one province country, stuck between Spain and France.

Dec.28: 31k Spanish Lowlands army is invading Lorraine, while 7k Papalists arrived at Mantua fortress – they are even not enough to lay a siege.


Year 1525

Tax 151d. Another European country joined Hessen in changing state religion to Protestantism – Thuringen.

We appoint another tax collector, this time in Turgai, and send our last group of colonists to Khorasan. After meeting them, Manamah will lead an expedition to chart unknown lands that lie to the northeast of Uzbek lands.

On January 16, Spanish troops on their arrival in Navarra, assault the fortress. Spanish province of Franche-Comte is invaded by a 10k Lorraine army and a 30k Brittany army is on its way to assist them to besiege the fortress.

Feb.1 – 20: Georgia rebels, but Sochi Regiment very easy calmed the revolt – all rebels were killed or arrested and the leader is catch and hanged. In one of our provinces we have a salt mine, we send the arrested rebels there to put to a good use their anger. Sochi Regiment lost 4000 men that we should replace next year – this revolt is not the last one.

On the 1st March Khorasan colony is expanded to a population of 640 souls, with the existing birth rate of 4% in several years a city will be inaugurated in this province. Manamah with his bunch of courageous men [3970 / 2000] is sent into an expedition to Siberia.

Fortress of Franch Comte shows signs of breaching, moreover a 91k French army is also moving towards it. Several days later on his arrival the leader of the French army commands an assault of the fortress – he is aware that this province will not provide enough supply for such a huge army and the fortress should be captured as soon as possible. Papal States sent 5000 more men to Mantua and a siege was initiated.

On March 27 Franch Comte is captured and French-Brittany armies move toward Spanish Lowlands.

May 22: Oman accepts to be Turkey’s vassal – they will later remember this day and regret their decision.

During July 25 – August 7 two Spanish provinces were captured in Lowlands – Artois and Luxembourg. It is obvious that Spain is losing this war – what a pity.

On August 20, Manamah sent his first map of a new province – Tchany. Natives are peaceful hunters and if we would have a possibility to send a trading party there to open a trading post we could trade their furs for other goods.

Sep.10: 3000 Teutons landed in Flanders – these men are ambitious. French-Brittany-Lorraine armies are leaving the Lowlands and moving in the direction of the Spanish mainland. Mantua is captured by Papal States – Spain passes through very dark days and Poland-Lithuania that could help them are not showing any sign of interest to this war. An explanation could be that Poles also do not have a big fleet to transport its troops to France or Italy.

Oct.20: Spain is still besieging San Sebastian in Navarra, while French, Lorraine and Navarra’s armies assault Roussillon.

Roussillion – another Spanish province is captured and a Navarra’s banner is flying over the fortress.

Until the end of the year, Manamah discovered another province – Irtych.


Year 1526

Tax 152d. This year’s income we use to upgrade the capital fortress in Isfahan. 2000 footmen are recruited in Georgia and 1000 in Hormouz, where we decide to create the core of a new army.

On January 15, Manamah discovered Demianka, and even with the harsh winter conditions and losing many men, he moves further into the unknown like a true explorer.

Jan.21: Sibir decided to use our involvement in the current war with the Pope’s alliance and declare war on Persia. They probably do not now that our armies are at full strength. The only thing that we are not very pleased to find out is that Sibir was joined by its ally – Astrakhan. We call on our allies, but only Poland-Lithuania and Spain join – unfortunately they will be of no help to us. Mameluks betrayed us! We helped them when Turkey threatened them and now they leave us alone. Later we will have to ask them for an explanation.

Col. Zuwara with Tabriz Army relocates from Armenia to Azerbadzjan – closer to the Astrakhan capital. We will attack Astrakhans in their heart and after capturing their capital we will force them to capitulate for a peace. For time being we leave Sibir and Astrakhan to make their first move and after that we will strike them where it hurts the most.

On February 6, Sibir’s 17757 horsemen laid siege to our fortress in Aralsk. They probably are not serious planning to besiege my level 2 fortress in the Aralsk desert. But after several days we see that they are not joking – let them starve trying to capture my fortress, while col. Tebessa with Persis Regiment will invade and capture Tenghiz province – cutting their supply lines.

Six days later another Sibir army of 26578 men moves to Aralsk. Col. Zuwara is in Azerbadzjan awaiting further instructions, soon the spring will come and then he will move his army to Astrakhan.

On February 20, Persis Regiment laid siege to Tenghiz fortress, but col. Tebessa reorganised his men and led them to an assault.

Feb.23: Russia [Pskov, Denmark, Savoy and Austria] declares war on Kazan. I suppose very soon we will border those Russians if they continue to push south.

On March 4, as we received news that Manamah charted another province – Altai, we order col. Zuwara an invasion of Astrakhan. Ten days later news about the fall of first Sibir fortress arrived to Isfahan. 2000 Persians died on the walls of Tenghiz fortress, but they died with honour – in a battle with a sword. 5000 Sibirians from the garrison paid dearly for not surrendering the fortress on our first demand.

Mar.30: Sibir, seeing one of their cities fall under Persian rule, abandon the siege of Aralsk and move to intercept Persis Regiment in Tenghiz.

April: A new war breaks out in Europe – this time the Pope is who faces and invasion from Parma. Parma's allies [Tuscany, Genoa and The Knight] join to face the Papal allies that joined too, even the newly admitted Naples. Meanwhile, Tabriz Army invaded Astrakhan and engaged in battle with Astrakhan defenders [9900 / 5757]. Tebessa with Persis Regiment [3956 / 13271] retreats not wanting his men to be massacred by 35815 Sibir cavalry. Later, on his arrival in Turgai on April 20, he orders his army to outflank Sibir cavalry in Tenghiz and through Aralsk moves to another Sibir fortress, in Orsk. Two days later another set of maps arrived from Manamah – Barabinsk province. At the end of month, on April 28, col. Zuwara successfully beating the Astrakhan, assaults their capital fortress.

On May 6, Astrakhan fortress falls. On the same day we order col. Zuwara to move his army through Astrakhan provinces, bypassing them, and lay siege to Sibir capital. We send our diplomat to Qasay, Astrakhan ruler, with the request of indemnities to cover our losses in this war. From the request of 500d we receive their entire treasury - only 22d. With this money we command the recruitment of 1000 infantry in Turgai to supplement Persis Regiment. On this fine day, Spain finally captured Navarra.

At the end on May, on 28th Persis Regiment invaded Orsk and assaults the fortress that has only 2500 infantry and 5 cannons. On June 2nd, a regiment of 7000 Sibir recruits dispatched from the fortress tries to interfere with the Tebessa's assault, but without any chance, as only 2 days later they are retreating from engagement and Tebessa continues his assault.

On June 6, Orsk is captured and Tebessa moves his regiments to Irghiz. Another bad news arrived from Europe as Spanish Flandres was captured by Teutons. By now, Spain lost control over 6 provinces in Europe.

In the morning of 21st of June, Zuwara that has just arrived in Sibir capital province orders the assault. Our 4-times superiority in infantry, cannons and morale will bring us a swift victory. One day later, also Tebessa orders an assault, this time on Irghiz fortress. Yet another day later, a retreating army from Orsk tries to break Zuwara's assault on Sibir capital, but in only 5 days they are beaten second time taking heavy losses. The remaining forces decide to retreat to Orsk from where they came.

On July 19, Irghiz falls and on the next day also Sibir capital falls. While Zuwara moves his army to the last unoccupied Sibir fortress, Tebessa with Persis Regiment that now is mainly cavalry moves to Orsk to intercept the retreating Sibir army and to not let them lay siege to the fortress and recover in morale.

A peace offer from Sibir reached us, they offer us 2 provinces in exchange to peace, but Thamasp I sends him back to Qasim Kihan to tell him that nothing except annexation of Sibir by Persia would not be accepted.

Aug.1: Sibir army in Tenghiz that besieged for so long and recently reinforced with infantry attempts an assault of the fortress. Persis Regiment from Orsk will wait for an opportunity to charge with its cavalry on the assaulters when their morale will be considerably reduced.

Aug.15 – 30: Zuwara intercepts a Sibir army in Kustanai that were moving to assist the assaulters in Tenghiz and defeats them soundly. Without any rest Zuwara again leads his men in battle, this time to the assault of the last standing Sibir fortress.

When we were about to celebrate the end of war and annexation of Sibir on 15th of September, Crimea [Turkey, Algiers, Hafsid Empire and Wallachia] declares war on us. Zuwara and Tebessa are both too far from the battlefield and we will have to face the invaders with our police armies: Sochi Regiment in Georgia and Royal Persian Army in Trabzon. A relief for us is that in these tough moments Spain and Poland-Lithuania also joined the war.

As the last Sibir province is captured, in a short ceremony we accept the annexation of Sibir.

We regroup our armies in the region, including the ex-Sibir 19152 infantry and 23556 cavalry. Tebessa with Persis Regiment moves to Irghiz on the Astrakhan border, just in case that they are planning another war on us, while Zuwara moves his army in a forced march around Caspian Sea to the theatre of war. But knowing that former Sibir cavalry will be delayed by Zuwara's artillery, we dispatch them from main army and send them alone. We hope they will arrive on time.

Sep.19: WHAT? Crimeans do not want to fight me? When I was expecting their armies to invade Sochi or Georgia they turned their back to us and are moving to Polish territory. Thinking about this strange Crimean manoeuvre, a thought appeared in my head: "Maybe Crimeans are afraid of our armies and they were forced by Turkey to declare war on Persia". We send Sochi Regiment to Crimean territory to make use of such an opportunity, when no Crimean army will stop us from besieging their fortresses.

On the last day of September Sochi Regiment arrived in Kouban, a small province with very little food for our armies. Col. Moktar, inspired by Zuwara's heroic deeds in Astrakhan and Sibir wars, leads his men [13207 / 4928] to assault the fortress. The poorly organised Crimean garrison [5000 infantry] should be easily defeated.

On 7th of October, Spain signs peace with Teutonic Order giving them Flandres. Those Teutons are growing stronger by each year.

Oct.14: As Kouban fortress was seized; col. Moktar moves his regiment to Kalmuk, another province with minimal fortress.

Oct.18: Col. Al-Rashid arrived with Royal Persian Army in Angora, but instead of staying and protecting the province he decided to invade Anatolia. If he is not successful in no matter what he planned he will be hanged like a traitor.

Another month is over and Moktar leads the assault of Kalmuk fortress, which he manages to capture in less then a week. In meantime a Crimean army of 23k men returned to Kouban in order to restore Crimean rule over province. As Crimean army is busy besieging Kouban and their capital province is unprotected, we order col. Moktar to make a swift manoeuvre and attack the Crimeans in the heart of their country – their capital.

November: Royal Persian Army arrived in Anatolia only to meet a Turkish army. Col. Al-Rashid bravely leads the charge. On its route to Crimean capital Sochi Regiment was engaged in battle by 6000 infantry recruits in Azov province, and in several days after easily defeating them col. Moktar continues his move. In the middle of the month Turkish army was reinforced with additional Turkish and Wallachian armies. Royal Persian Army [9624 / 7525] is outnumbered by the Turk-Wallachian armies [20637 / 13953 / 31], they have no chance in winning this battle, but at least will save some time for our reinforcements that are on their move. On the day of 29, a tragedy hits us – Royal Persian Army no longer exists, all Persians are dead or captured. Now Persia's interior is unprotected.

With this tragedy on the Turkish border we now can count only on Moktar and also we should be glad that Crimea and not Turkey declared war on us, therefore as their capital will fall to us we can end this bloody war and certainly on our terms.

On the first day of December col. Moktar is stopped again from fulfilling his mission by 1279 footmen Crimeans. By the end of the day Crimeans retreat and Moktar continues his campaign.

On December 8, Parma is forced to pay 142d to Naples to get them out of the war.

On its arrival in Crimea province, col. Moktar is met by 9332 Crimean and Turkish footmen. Yet another delay in much awaited peace resolution.

During this year 3 more provinces were charted my Manamah's expedition: Ob, Tomsk and Krasnoiarsk.
 
Last edited:

unmerged(3438)

Captain
Apr 27, 2001
394
0
Visit site
I think you may have made a mistake in not getting the Mameluks back into your alliance asap if you are the leader. Although they refused to help you against Sibir and Astrakhan, they may well have joined against the Crimeans/Turks, which would have diverted a bit the Turks.
Also the longer you wait to add them to your gang the more chances there are that they will find other allies !
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Originally posted by T. Fournier
I think you may have made a mistake in not getting the Mameluks back into your alliance asap if you are the leader. Although they refused to help you against Sibir and Astrakhan, they may well have joined against the Crimeans/Turks, which would have diverted a bit the Turks.
Also the longer you wait to add them to your gang the more chances there are that they will find other allies !

Unfortunately, I am not the leader of alliance - I was invited by Poland-Lithuania. I do not think that the Mameluks are liked very much by other neighbours, so they will come back crawling and begging to let them into alliance :)

I know they will ! :D

Cornelius.
 
Last edited:

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Persia. Part VII: 1527 - 1528

Year 1527

Tax 160d. We should try to stop the Turks before col. Zuwara will arrive from Siberia around the Caspia, so we spend all our money in training new regiments – 10k infantry in Kars and 3k infantry in Trabzon. The Turks will be busy besieging Angora, so we hope that we will have enough time to take Crimean capital and end this war. Meanwhile, Crimean army decide to assault Kouban, but as the morale of our troops is higher we can count that our garrison will hold the first assault.

Col. Moktar again wins a skirmish with Crimean and Turkish infantry [6000] for only minimal losses [500/500], and on January 5 he orders the assault of Crimean capital – he knows very well that the outcome of this war entirely depends on him. Persia counts on him!

The combined force of Turks and Wallachia [13642 / 4129] assault our fortress in Angora without waiting the reinforcements that will bring cannons. And we know why Turks are so desperate – all the mountainous territory of Angora is under the snow. We are blessed indeed!

By the end of January, col. Moktar manages to capture Crimea fortress and on the same day me meets with Sa'adat Giray I of Crimea and signs peace. We were lucky that Crimea declared war on us and not Turkey and we are now with two more provinces: Kalmuk and Kouban. Col. Moktar, another Persian hero, returns to Kouban to guard new provinces against possible uprisings.

Turk and Wallachian armies [23362 men] are still freezing in Angora, they probably are shocked that war ended so soon and they didn’t capture even a fortress. Another war is over as Russia gets from Kazan – 78d and Lipetsk province.

At the beginning of February we offer a white peace to the Pope and he accepts – we are no more at war.

As the spring came, the first part of Zuwara's army [22k Sibirian horsemen] finally arrived in Trabzon. We leave 10k in province and the rest we move to reinforce Moktar's regiment that now is moving from Kouban to Georgia – newly acquired Crimean provinces are too poor to sustain Moktar's men. At the end of March when col. Moktar arrived in Georgia he is reinforced with the Sibirian cavalry and the Sochi Regiment [11457 / 16256] can now quell every rebellion that might occur.

Newly created Kars Army under col. Saada, moved from Kars to Trabzon and reinforced with 10k Sibirian horsemen, takes place of Royal Persian Army in guarding the Turkish border.

On 29th of April we received unexpected news from Europe – Spain losing control over 6 provinces signs peace with Papal States and it is even paid with 250d indemnities. The Pope most probably was forced to make this step as his country is filled with ravaging Tuscanian armies that already control 2 out of 3 Papal provinces. Almost a month later a peace is signed between Tuscany and Papal States: 95d are paid to Tuecany and they also receive the ownership of Romagna.

It is July 15th, when col. Zuwara finally reached his destination – Armenia from its very long travel from Siberia.

Not again?! On November 22 we are called to honour our alliance as Turkey declared war on Mameluks. Why our Foreign Affairs Advisor not informed me that Mameluks are again part of our alliance together with Moldova? Not to say that this pleases me very much as again we will fight with our Shiite brothers side by side against treacherous Turks.

So, the old alliance is again at war with the Turks – Poland-Lithuania, Spain and Moldova joined to help the Mameluks. Unfortunately the Turks are not alone – they are supported by Wallachia, Algiers, Hafsid Empire and Crimea that will most probably try to regain its lost provinces – Kouban and Kalmuk. We will see about that – we have 3 armies on Turkish and Crimean borders of about 25 000 men each.

But we do not hurry to move our armies yet as the winter is about to come and the border provinces will be under the snow.

Manamah's expedition discovered more Siberian provinces: Angara, Balakhta, Tchuma, Oka, Saian and Zima.


Year 1528

Tax 167d. We upgrade [to lvl.2] the Irghiz fortress – a province on Astrakhan border, as now being involved in the war with Turkey, Astrakhan can see a good possibility to attack us for the humiliating defeat that they suffered in the war of Sibir annexation. We further reinforce col. Moktar's army, training 1000 infantry in Sochi and 2000 infantry in Georgia.

On January 30, the Turks capture Moldavia. Seems that all their forces are again in Europe, and Crimeans decided to attack Polan-Lithuania instead of regaining their lost provinces. Seeing a good possibility to force Crimea out of the war we move Tabriz Army into Azov – a Crimean province bordering Sochi. And a month later on March 1, col. Zuwara laid siege to the fortress.

Ten day later a Crimean regiment [7791 foot] that was defeated by the Poles in Crimea province were beaten again as they made a mistake to retreat to Azov, where Tabriz Army [12607 / 1158 / 48] was besieging the fortress. After a sound victory with almost no losses, on March 19 col. Zuwara leads Tabriz Army [12514 / 1145 / 48] to the assault of Azov fortress. The Crimean garrison [5000 / 0 / 10] will soon have to admit our victory.

In a week Zuwara brings another victory for Persia – Azov is captured, but this day we will remember also as our hero was slain during the assault. Tabriz Army, now under the leadership of col. Kairwan, moves to Kerch, where on April 22 it ambushes 7000 Crimean foot recruits. After the victory, col. Kairwan orders the assault of Kerch fortress, also with a minimal garrison. In mid-assault Kairwan received 3000 infantry reinforcements that played a decisive role in capturing of the fortress.

At the end of May defeated Crimean recruits retreated to Azov and laid siege thinking to regain control of province. An invasion force of 44k Turks are in Angora province, but they decide to only pass through it as they most probably remember the last war, when thousands of their compatriots died from freezing and starvation. The Turks's goal is their former province of Sivas.

As the summer came we enjoyed the assistance of a 12k Mameluk army that happened to pass through early captured Azov province and defeating the besieging Crimeans they solved one of our problems.

During June we managed to capture Kerch from Crimeans – now only their capital is free. We will punish them for being so foolish to get involved in this war and being totally unprepared. While Persian armies are beating one of the Turkish allies, Spanish and Polish troops laid siege to the fortress of other Turkish ally – Wallachia. By now only Turks are seen to be involved in battles – 44k army laid siege to Sivas and 18k to Polish Bessarabia. By the end of month Sochi Regiment from its barracks in Azerbadzjan moved to Kurdistan bordering Sivas province, if the Turks decide to assault the fortress col. Moktar with Sochi Regiment [10k/15k] and col. Saada with Kars Army [10k/10k] will charge demoralised enemy army and try to inflict maximum damage to the assaulters.

On July 4th, Papal States as a peace resolution annexes Parma. Several day later the Mameluk army that helped us by removing the siege of Azov, arrived in Crimea and swiftly defeated the remnants of Crimean force. Unfortunately the Mameluks do not have enough troops even to besiege the fortress – we hope they will wait for us and together we will capture the last Crimean bastion.

On August 5th we spot a 15k Crimean army moving through our province Angora towards Sivas to help the Turks in the siege. A long way from home – and I was wondering where were the Crimean armies. By the end of August the Mameluk regiment in Crimea received 17k reinforcement, enough to start a siege. Seeing this we decide to move Tabriz Army instead of Crimea to Kaffa, a Turkish province on the tip of Crimean peninsula.

Sivas is still not assaulted and I thought the Turks were not so brilliant tacticians, but they are. They should've understood the meaning of 2 Persian armies on the Sivas border. What a pity for our armies to wait without action when the way to Constantinople is free and so tempting.

By September 16, Polish armies captured Wallachia and instead of annexing them they request only 250d indemnities.

In the morning of October 12, col. Kairwan arrived with Tabriz Army to Kaffa and on the same day orders an assault. Mameluks are still besieging Crimea – I have to think that they do not have a superiority to get a successful assault; nevertheless, the fortress is already in a very bad condition.

Good news indeed, we are saying to ourselves when on November 9th we receive news about the fall of Kaffa. After this victory, Tabriz Army moves to Azov, just in case Mameluks will request only indemnities from Crimea and we will have to step in and besiege the fortress once again. On this day Moldova is liberated by its own armies and now 20k Moldovans are on their way to Wallachia. This time Wallachia will be annexed; at least we think so.

By mid-December when Crimea fortress was about to surrender by itself, Mameluks command an assault – what they were waiting for so long? On December 20 last Crimean province is captured.

During this year another set of maps arrived from Manamah: Tannu Ola, Chatga, Selenga, Ulan Ude, Tchita, Sretensk and Mogotcha provinces.

At the end of 1528 I was resting at my new mansion in Isfahan, just recently received from our beloved monarch together with a promotion [Marquis], and thinking about the next year and the strategies that we should apply to bring this war to an end. But another question does not leave my mind – What Mameluks are going to do with Crimeans, because as they are holding their capital, only they can force Crimean annexation.
 

unmerged(3438)

Captain
Apr 27, 2001
394
0
Visit site
Maybe you should have gone for only one or two Crimean provinces. I mean your BB must be quite high by now so annexing Crimea may not be that good. Also you now have quite a number of provinces that are revolt-prone.
Too I am not sure Wallachia will get annexed. In most of my games -and from what I've read in the other threads that's not unique- they get ransomed a lot and most times they ended up diplomatically annexed by the Turks.

Still interesting. Keep it on.
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Originally posted by T. Fournier
Maybe you should have gone for only one or two Crimean provinces. I mean your BB must be quite high by now so annexing Crimea may not be that good. Also you now have quite a number of provinces that are revolt-prone.

I did not checked my BB rating but I do not think it is so hi - Sibir is Rest Of The World - so annexing them was without BB penalty, and Crimeans - well, I know that in 9 out of 10 cases Crimea ends up annexed diplomatically by Turkey and I do not want to fight a stronger Turkey on two borders.

But wait for culmination of war and you will see that my BB should not go up.

Cornelius.
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
Persia. Part VIII: 1529 - The End of War

Year 1529

Tax 167d. We improve the fortress in Kalmuk province and recruit 4000 infantry in Armenia to look for protection against Astrakhan of our northern borders.

Crimean army broke from the siege of Sivas, leaving only the Turks to continue the siege and now are moving towards their now occupied provinces. But I do not think their small army will arrive on time to liberate their land, even if Mameluks will not annex them we will have enough time to do it ourselves.

On January 14 as Chika province was discovered by Manamah expedition, we have learned that only 909 horsemen survived so far the harsh Siberian winter, but they are moving on.

It is March 19th, when great news reached the palace – Mameluks signed an annexation treaty with Crimeans, and according to the conditions of the treaty 2 Crimean provinces [Azov and Kerch] from now on will be part of the Persian Kingdom. As our northern border is now secured Tabriz Army is ordered to move to Armenia, where it will be reinforced and sent to Turkish Anatolia [province adjacent to Thrace, Turkish capital province]. The besieged Mameluk fortress of Sivas is showing signs of breaking, but several Mameluk armies are moving to assist Sivavs defenders.

During April Mameluk armies, instead of trying to relief Sivas defenders, invade Adana. But a better-organised 12k Turkish army defeats 22k men Mameluk army and afterwards is moving to Sivas to reinforce the besiegers.

In mid-June the brave Sivasian defenders capitulate and the fortress is now under Turkish control, but at the same time col. Kairwan with Tabriz Army assaults Anatolia. By mid-July Anatolia was captured in one assault and col. Kairwan is on his way to Constantinople, where he at 1st of August initiates a siege. With the fall of Anatolia, the Turkish army that captured Sivas and by now was being idle will most probably try to recapture Anatolia or even try to lift the siege of Constantinople, that's why Kars Army is ordered to relocate from Trabzon to Angora and cause distraction to Turkish armies long enough to allow the second capture of Constantinople.

On August 17th, Wallachia is captured by Moldova and later accepts to let Wallachia remain independent in exchange of 232d. Not long after that a white peace is concluded between Spain and Wallachia.

By end of August Polish armies regained control over Bessarabia and now laid siege to the Bujak fortress.

By September Manamah charted new territories to the east - Nerchinsk, Norsk, Boureia, Tchekunda, Sofiisk and Bogorodsk. With last province he reached a new sea and now feeling that his first expedition should end here, he turns back and leads the remaining 634 horsemen back home, to Karaganda. But this is not the end of his exploration in the region, after reinforcement in Karaganda he will return to chart the remaining territories. But back at home the Turkish war is reaching its culmination, as Constantinople fortress is now not in good condition [-3] after a series of successful bombardments.

At 5th of October the walls of Constantinople are breached [-6] and one month later after a new round of bombardment, Constantinople is captured. After looting the Turkish capital, our warriors found some Spanish maps that the Turks most probably got from one the Spanish warships they sunk.

During last three months one revolt broke up in Kerch, but the rebel forces were too little to cause the immediate surrender of our garrison and they were left to besiege until the end of war when we can spare an army to police former Crimean provinces.

On November 5th a Turkish emissary heralds us: Turks are ready to surrender Anatolia and Kaffa in return for freeing Constantinople. Two provinces should be enough, but we think that if the Turks were so soon offering a peace resolution they might be also ready to accept our conditions: Anatolia, Kaffa and 250d retribution to cover our war losses. Suleyman I accepts our offer and in addition to the requested provinces all their treasury of 200d is handed to the col. Kairwan in Constantinople. A white peace is signed with Wallachia and we are finally at peace.

Our involvement in this war ends, but the war still goes on as Turks are still fighting the Poles, Spaniards and Mameluks. Tabriz Army is ordered to return home from Constantinople, while Kars Army moves to Kerch to put down the rebellion. At the same time with the war indemnities we start an upgrade of the Azov fortress [to lvl.2] and recruitment of 3000 infantry in Trabzon and 4000 in Armenia.

For such a considerable contribution to war, Mameluks are now our closest friend [rel. +173], but the rest of Muslim world – Turkey, Hedjas, Astrakhan, Algiers, Oman, Hafsid Empire, Marroco, Aden, Kazan and Golden Horde – hate us [-200], while the rest of Europe shows little interest in us remaining neutral and maybe a little thankful for distracting Turkish attention from Europe. The only European nation that we cannot trust is Russia as now they see in us a rival in their way to build their empire. But we do not care as Persia in this war demonstrated once more its might and it is now a power to be recon with.

As another glorious year for Persia is reaching its end, I feel weaker and weaker as my forces are slowly leaving me. I am too old to be of more assistance to our monarch and on the last day of the year 1529 he receives my retirement. Sitting by the fire at my mansion I write this pages of Persian history – a history I witnessed and proud to say that I helped our three monarchs to write it. Glory to Persia!
 
Last edited:

unmerged(3438)

Captain
Apr 27, 2001
394
0
Visit site
I am not too sure how the Mameluks AI does it, but overall I am not sure I have seen them survive yet even with help (although only mostly european help until now). I am in the process of playing Venice in the IGC and as France never got interested in me I turned to the Mameluks in the beginning. I was always faithful to them against the Turks, as were the Hafsids, and while I managed to grab Morea, Hellas, Albania, Macedonia, Rumelia and Ragusa from the Turks, they still managed to get annexed ! I think you really should be thinking of vassalizing and diplo-annexing them while they're still there.
 

Storey

StoreytellAAR
7 Badges
Mar 16, 2001
5.975
4
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For The Glory
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • 500k Club
Inspired by your aar I've been leading Persia myself. I took a different track. I've tried to stay out of the Middle East area and just push east and north. I annexed the Uzbeck (?) to the northeast. Fought a couple of wars with Russia and have cut them off from Siberia. Only had one war with Turkey and took Syria. I have formed no alliances since I didn't want to become involved in what I knew would be several wars with Turkey and it's allies. It's around 1560 and I have one problem. No conquistadors. I've had a few colonists which I used but I sure could have used a conquistador. I can now see England in the little of India that I can see so I'm forming my forces to see if I can take what they have built.:)

Joe
 

unmerged(2970)

Emperatore Daciae
Apr 13, 2001
682
0
T. Fournier - I have played a little (around 100 years) as Mameluks and I can assure you that it is not AI the problem, but a huge difference in land technology between Turks and Mameluks [Mameluks - lvl.1, while Turks - lvl.3 or 4] and also Turks have morale advantage, that is why Turks so easily assault and capture Mameluk fortresses. Another Turk advantages are big starting armies and cheap recruitment cost, while Mameluks has two small armies - one in Egipt and another one in Delta (I think so). In my game by the time my armies arrived to the battlefield - already 3 provinces were captured (well, one naturally without a fortress). I had to cede two provinces to Turkey to get them from my back and in meantime to improve my land tech and recruit addition armies on Turk border. After 5 or 7 years when another conflict broke up I was allied with Persia and Poland-Lithuania, so I recaptured lost provinces and future wars were much easier to fight. In most wars I used small cavalry detachments to disrupt the movement of enemy troops, while I besieged their fortresses.

Storey - I am very glad that with my AAR I inspired you to try Persia to play with. Getting a conquistador in my game was a random event, but believe me he is of little use without continuous flow of colonists. So, I think you will have to develop your land tech up to lvl.11 and naval tech up to 19 [I think] to be able to send your armies into the unknown and also be able to construct a shipyard and get at least a colonist per year. Good luck!

Cornelius.
 

Storey

StoreytellAAR
7 Badges
Mar 16, 2001
5.975
4
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For The Glory
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • 500k Club
Cornelius penned

"Getting a conquistador in my game was a random event, but believe me he is of little use without continuous flow of colonists. So, I think you will have to develop your land tech up to lvl.11 and naval tech up to 19 [I think] to be able to send your armies into the unknown and also be able to construct a shipyard and get at least a colonist per year."

Well my little adventure into India against the English payed off with the conquest of a city with a shipyard.:D I even kicked some French behinds out of India. My COT is now the wealthiest that I can see. It's total worth is around 985 and growing as I settle Siberia. And yes I had to wait till level 11 land tech to explore. I even kicked some French behinds out of India. I'm setting up cities in the gold producing area of Siberia and progressing very nicely thank you! Might be time to pick on the Dutch in India.

Joe