Revolts here and there and then suddenly everywhere...

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Swami

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Well I was playing as Korea, everything going extremely well... Took over Japan, colonized a little up north and then went south to Indonesia. Ming decided they didn't like me as allies, so I ate most of their northern territory to and then it started... Japan was only Kyoto and I decided to take the last province, but after taking it entire Japan started revolting like crazy.. :S Even while almost every province was cored. After that event after event made that my stability from +2 sacked to -3 in less then 2 years. After that the rebels drained more then 50k. manpower reserves and I got trouble with Peasants and after that Pretender rebels, which eventually installed their king giving me -200% prestige and -100 legitimacy, WTF?!?! The rebels kept taking provinces that where coring so it's impossible to core them, events keep hitting as soon as I even try to increase stability and I'm way to low on administration points to get rid of overextension and low stability anytime soon, even without the game making it impossible... Now everything is completely fucked up because I took Kyoto and those Japanese rebels + events destroyed my stability, economy and manpower reserves and after that Pretender rebels took the only thing I had a little left off... I'm fighting for over 15 years now, things are getting even worse now, so I'm guess I really did lose this game, damn I was even lucky that Novgorod took out Muscovy and Aragon won from Castile, making the 2 major colonization powers non existent :( :(

I took 150 years of patient with Japan, taking few provinces and then coring and again and this is how the game repays me :S Does somebody have a strategy to get out of this situation?? So I don't have any administration points, I don't have any manpower, the rebels have more then 120k. units in total, I have no change of reducing overextension. Prestige and legitimacy will take I while because they are both at -100 and events keep lowering that anyway the same with stability actually... My army is mostly destroyed as in my 40k. army has 1k. units left, 800 cannons and 200 horses and I again I have no manpower left xD There is another 20k. army completely worn out with only 2k. units left and another 20k. army has been completely destroyed by rebels and there is nothing left. My income is -35 ducats or something, I've been bankrupt ones and will be again probably, so raising stability is also impossible because of that :p

(I'm also prepared to use cheats this one time (a))

Here a beautifull screenshot :D

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And here a screenshot form Japan, Indonesia also has arround 40k. peasants and in China there are rebels that want to form some state that isn't Ming but still Chinese (I guess) and the nomads up north also want to be free and have risen in rebellion. Things are actually looking pretty good now, because the 400k. pretender rebels won and dissapeared....

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edit: And I'm still in the AAR section and not the right forum... Would it be possible for a mod to move this post to the EUIV section? (a)
 
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The EASIEST way to reduce overextension is to rid yourselves of the provinces. Accepting their rebel's demands works of course, or if possible just turning it into a vassal or giving it back to the angry loser you took them from.

The Japanese rebels sound normal. Kyoto was raising revolt risk, and you probably had a lot banked from previous conquests in Japan, and it finally pushed over... resulting in a revolt everywhere. Solution there is to increase autonomy all over japan to minimize or eliminate revolt risk, and use harsh treatment to delay it if you need some time. If you jack LA and harsh treatment, you need a really angry populace to not be able to get rid of it if as you said you were taking it piece by piece and not gobbling it that quickly.

If you can't or fail to avoid a bad rebellion, sometimes you need to pick and choose. You may have avoided this had you been willing to lose part of china and japan and hold onto your government, rather than exhausting your armies fighting everywhere and having the pretender rebels win, resulting in a fail-cascade where you lose everything. Obviously this game (unless you do cheat) may be lost now, but before it got to this point, you may have been able to pull it off if you accepted SOME loss, before it got all the way to this COMPLETE loss.
 

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I'm also willing to bet overextension over 100 did that to you. I suppose you managed to core a few provinces to get down to the 40% in your screenshot but yes only time I've seen things going off the rails like this is when I was hitting 100% overextension. It's just inviting the hurt, never ever do it no matter what. You think you can take it but you can't.