revolts everywhere ruining game

[unmerged(14933)]

Im playing 1.06 and am pretty new to game. Anywho, everytime i go to war, even if i have CB and everything, i have 4000000000 revolts all over and rebels. ITs so fn bad cuz i have to fight my enemies and my own people, i have +3 stability so what is the fn deal with this?:??? if this is how this game is it is stupid.

thx

 

[JohnMK]

I see so the fact that it's incredibly realistic in that regard means nothing to you. Ok, go back to checkers then.

 

[unmerged(11486)]

Except it seems that he is actually having a problem. If you are at war for a lengthy period of time, then war exhaustion builds up, but for quick wars, you shouldn't be having any revolt problems.

As for accuracy, this has been discussed, but revolts were not frequently brought on because of wars, especially when they were defensive...

Steele

 

[Tim O]

I don't think it's that realistic but you learn to deal with it.

 

[JohnMK]

How can something seem when he doens't say it? He must learn about war exhaustion & religious tolerance & how the world really was in this time period and how it's modeled in Eu2. Then maybe he can coax the system into moderation. Until he figures it out though sure it's gonna be tough.

 

[JohnMK]

Originally posted by Timothy Ortiz
I don't think it's that realistic but you learn to deal with it.

And just how realistic is one country conquering & owning all of the Holy Roman Empire and holding it revolt-free for hundreds & hundreds of years. Not at all. I think revolts cause people stress, and people don't like dealing with stress even if it's realistic. People want the good but never the bad.

 

[Dinsdale]

John, there are more revolts in an average decade of EU than all the recorded revolts in history.

Rarely would any area revolt more than once per generation for any reason.

Don't mix realism and game mechanics.
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Erebos

Which patch are you using? Which country are you playing? Do you know how to look at the cause of the revolts?

General advice; read the strategy and faq posts. The most general advice I would give is slow down. Don't try and go to war too soon with too many.

Stick with the game, you might get to love it.

 

[Tim O]

In real life if you massacred 10,000 rebels in a province I gaurantee their isn't go another rebellion for a generation.

 

[unmerged(14933)]

I am playing bradenberg (sp??) and using 1.06 patch. I have no idea how to check why they revolt. But france and poland attack me regualarly, and while fighting them i have revolts out the wazoo, i even tried switching religion. Most of the revolts are my denmark and netherlands holdings, they revolt like its their job!

 

[JohnMK]

And there you have it. Mistake #1. See? You can usually just add it up to inexperience. Switching religion will indeed cause you revolts. Oh and holding non-CB provinces of completely different cultures. Can't expect them to love foreign overlords.

 

[unmerged(14933)]

nonononononon i switched religions after spending 40 years fighting revolts, and it did not help or hurt, still the same. i got demark by a friend annexing, and netherlands from being attacked by france. is there a way to check why they revolt?? how does war exaustion work??? lastly, what provinces i gotta take to become germany?
thx again

 

[AndrewT]

Let's get some facts. Go to a province which revolts a lot, click on the town hall; what is the revolt risk % ? Hover your mouse over the revolt risk %, what factors does it list there?

 

[unmerged(5161)]

Seriously John, EU2 revolts are ahistorical. EU2 revolts are designed to keep people's armies busy and make it hard to hold onto lots of territory. I guarantee that no single place on Earth revolts as much as in EU2. You kill more revolters than people that live in the province. That is just absurd. But it is needed to keep people from conquering the world in a century.

 

[Apebe]

just give a different meaning to "revolts". Provinces in a given country didn't all have the same taxation ... many had privileges and many just kept the treasury for themselves. If the monarchs decides to cut those privileges he has to fight a real resistance amongts the cities and the dominant class ...

The WE should however increase differently in a offensive war and in a defensive war ...

 

[Apebe]

Originally posted by Erebos Eventide
Im playing 1.06 and am pretty new to game.

reinstall with patch 1.05 do some world conquest and when you find it to easy install 1.06

 

[Zeitgeist]

If revolts bother you that much...

At the start of a game, hit F12 and then type "alba" (w/o quotes).

There, no more rebellions. You'll still have to kill any existing rebels though... Now you can warmonger without any cares

 

[Chris8b]

Originally posted by Erebos Eventide
ITs so fn GAY cuz

Must...resist...flame.

-C

P.S. You tried changing religions. Did you try changing religious tolerance?

 

[Mowers]

Originally posted by ryoken69
Seriously John, EU2 revolts are ahistorical. EU2 revolts are designed to keep people's armies busy and make it hard to hold onto lots of territory. I guarantee that no single place on Earth revolts as much as in EU2. You kill more revolters than people that live in the province. That is just absurd. But it is needed to keep people from conquering the world in a century.

The problem is that its very difficult to model realistic revolts.
The system at the moment doesnt do a bad job of modelling the problems that revolts caused. Historically one revolt could well finish you off, but to program that in would be difficult.
You do not ever kill more people that live in the province, you kill more people that live in one town in the province.

 

[unmerged(5822)]

Originally posted by Zeitgeist
If revolts bother you that much...

At the start of a game, hit F12 and then type "alba" (w/o quotes).

There, no more rebellions. You'll still have to kill any existing rebels though... Now you can warmonger without any cares

Does "alba" turn off ALL rebels, or just "my" rebels?

 

[Earl Grey]

Re: Re: revolts everywhere ruining game

Originally posted by Apebe
reinstall with patch 1.05 do some world conquest and when you find it to easy install 1.06

I don't think that's necessary.

To me handling rebels is primarily a matter of my own mindset. Try not to see the rebels as annoyances which stand in the way of getting on with the game. Instead view them as problems for you to crack.

Finding out what is causing the rebellions is very important because once you understand it's much easier to feel in control of the situation and actually, to varying degrees, enjoy fighting rebels.