Revolters

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"Off without any pain" - groovy!
Trust me i live here and know what's it like up here. Population is more concerned with the real question how to earn money rather than abstarct thing - independence. The nicest thing about Russia is that Democracy according to us is some sort of insanity. People are fed up with elections and stuff like that therefore they'd better go to dacha than vote for something, OR BELIEVE ME!

By the way, "without pain" what d'ye mean? Russia - north, Kazakhstan - south - it would be isolated what would possibly lead to the situation in which the economy of republic would worsen tenfold! Kazakhstan would fear to support new revolter, 'cos otherwise Russia is free to support russian separatists in Northern Kazakhstan.

FREE MOTHERLAND - FREE SIBERIA

 

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Although I agree with all the caucasian revolt theories, in my opinion we can olny simulate 2 in that region due the EU2 provinces. They are Abkhazia in Soci and Chechnya in Kouban
And it is also impossible to do the moldova revolters as well.
Have you seen how tiny Trans-Dniestria and Gaguazia are?

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

Originally posted by Khimaira
"Off without any pain" - groovy!
Trust me i live here and know what's it like up here. Population is more concerned with the real question how to earn money rather than abstarct thing - independence. The nicest thing about Russia is that Democracy according to us is some sort of insanity. People are fed up with elections and stuff like that therefore they'd better go to dacha than vote for something, OR BELIEVE ME!

By the way, "without pain" what d'ye mean? Russia - north, Kazakhstan - south - it would be isolated what would possibly lead to the situation in which the economy of republic would worsen tenfold! Kazakhstan would fear to support new revolter, 'cos otherwise Russia is free to support russian separatists in Northern Kazakhstan.

FREE MOTHERLAND - FREE SIBERIA

Íó êàê òåáå ñêàçàòü...  Àëòàå íàòóðàëüíîå õîçÿéñòâî áûëî - îíî è îñòàíåòñÿ. Îñîáîãî óùåðáà íåñóùåñòâóþùàÿ ýêîíîìèêà ïîíåñòè íå ìîæåò - êàê â Íåïàëå, î÷åíü ïîõîæå. À íàñ÷åò íåçàâèñèìîñòè - êîíå÷íî, ó íàñ, â Ðîññèè èíèöèàòèâà áóäåò èñõîäèòü íå îò íàðîäà, à îò Áîüøîãî Äÿäè (ìåñòíîãî êíÿçüêà), à íàðîä ïîääåðæèò ëþáîãî íà÷àëüíèêà.

Íàñ÷åò Êàâêàçà - èñëàìñêèé ôóíäàìåíòàëèçì êàê îáúåäèíÿþùèé ôàêòîð? Îáùàÿ èñëàìñêàÿ èäåÿ òàì ìîæåò ðåøèòü íàöèîíàëüíûé âîïðîñ.

Íó à â åäèíóþ íåçàâèñèìóþ Ñèáèðü ÿ íå âåðþ. Ðóññêîå íàñåëåíèå Ñèáèðè, ïî-ìîåìó, âåñüìà ïàòðèîòè÷íî, à óðîâåíü æèçíè â áîëüøèõ ãîðîäàõ (òèïà òîãî æå Íîâîñèáèðñêà) äîñòàòî÷íî âûñîê, ÷òîáû èñêëþ÷èòü âîçìîæíîñòü áåñïîðÿäêà.

To all: please pardon my Russian

 

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Originally posted by Walter Hawkwood


I'm starting the work. Would it be all right if I post zips with shields & flags directly to you via e-mail?

Of course. Then I give them their rightful TAG's, and send them to Benjamin Miller. I'll give them the TAG's, so just call them their name (I insist).
Look in the first post to see the revolters we have.

 

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Originally posted by Kyran
Mormegil i think you should look at the US revolters. I changed them so they're less generic and provide a better veriety of land possesion when the final straw is pulled.

Also, once you get those revolters figured out I'd love to have the tag list for them so I can start writing events.

Were did you change them? (In a thread?) If you've found better provinces for them, bring them on, this thread is for revolters.

The TAG list should be sent in an instant! I'll PM it to you if it's not too big. The basque revolter now use the NAV tag btw, Benjamin Miller may have made some more changes with the TAG's.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

Originally posted by Mormegil


Of course. Then I give them their rightful TAG's, and send them to Benjamin Miller. I'll give them the TAG's, so just call them their name (I insist).
Look in the first post to see the revolters we have.

I thought they were going to be changed. Maybe we should adopt Zeus's and mine combined rebel lists? They are... um... somehow more realistic. Or at least incorporate them in existing list.

 

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Originally posted by Walter Hawkwood
Íó êàê òåáå ñêàçàòü...  Àëòàå íàòóðàëüíîå õîçÿéñòâî áûëî - îíî è îñòàíåòñÿ. Îñîáîãî óùåðáà íåñóùåñòâóþùàÿ ýêîíîìèêà ïîíåñòè íå ìîæåò - êàê â Íåïàëå, î÷åíü ïîõîæå.

Õèìåðà ãîâîðèò: Íó âîò âèäèøü - òû è îòâåòèë íà ñâîå ïðåäïîëîæåíèå -

À íàñ÷åò íåçàâèñèìîñòè - êîíå÷íî, ó íàñ, â Ðîññèè èíèöèàòèâà áóäåò èñõîäèòü íå îò íàðîäà, à îò Áîüøîãî Äÿäè (ìåñòíîãî êíÿçüêà), à íàðîä ïîääåðæèò ëþáîãî íà÷àëüíèêà.


Õèìåðà ãîâîðèò: À òû äóìàåøü íàðîä ïîääåðæèò êíÿçüêà áåç ýêîíîìèêè, ýòî ìîæåò è ïðîéäåò ñ Òàòàðñòàíîì èëè Ñàõîé (õîòÿ ñ íåé-òî âðÿä ëè, òàì ðóññêèõ 60%). À åñëè ïðåäïîëîæèòü Àëòàé îòäåëÿåòñÿ - òî ÿ ïîëàãàþ ïðè õîðîøåé áëîêàäå ñî ñòîðîíû ñâîèõ ñîñåäåé (Íîìèíà ñóíò îäèîçà) â Àëòàå áóäåò íàø òðàäèöèîííûå ðóññêèé áóíò è êíÿçüêó âñå êíÿæåñêîå-òî íîæèêîì ïî îòðåçàþò

Èëè äîïóñòèì, îí îòäåëÿåòñÿ - à òóò ïîä áîêîì ÑèáÂÎ - ÿ ïîëàãàþ îíè íå áóäóò ïðîñòî ñìîòðåòü, êàê êòî-òî òàì êðè÷èò î ñîçäàíèè Àëòàéñêîãî õàìñòâà ïîä áîêîì.

Íàñ÷åò Êàâêàçà - èñëàìñêèé ôóíäàìåíòàëèçì êàê îáúåäèíÿþùèé ôàêòîð? Îáùàÿ èñëàìñêàÿ èäåÿ òàì ìîæåò ðåøèòü íàöèîíàëüíûé âîïðîñ.

Õèìåðà ãîâîðèò: Îé áîþñü âðÿä ëè, ñèëüíî óæ íå ëþáÿò âàéíàõîâ; òàì ïî èäåå âîîáùå âñåõ ìîæíî ðàçäåëèòü íà íåñêîëüêî ãðóïï:

Âàéíàõè - èíãóøè è ÷å÷åíöû
Àäûãå: Àäûãåéöû, ÷åðêåññû, êàðà÷àåâöû
Êàáàðäà: Êàáàðäà è áàëêàðöû
Äàãåñòàí: òàì âñåõ ìíîãî
Àëàíû è Àïñû - òî áèøü îñåòèíû è àáõàçû ---

Âàéíàõîâ íå ëþáÿò â Äàãåñòàíå, Îñåòèíû òîæå íå ëþáÿò Âàéíàõîâ, Àïñû - àáõàçû âñå æå áîëüøå õîòÿò â Ðîññèþ, èì õî÷åòñÿ ïîäàëüøå îò ãðóçèè, ýòî âàðèàíò ïðèçíàíèÿ èõ ñóâåðåíèòåòà - à ïðèñîåäèíåíèå ê êàêîé-òî êó÷êå íåïðèçíàííûõ êàðëèêîâ - íå âûõîä ê ñóâåðåíèòåòó äå þðå...

Ïðî êàáàðäó è ÷åðêåññîâ ÿ óæå ñêàçàë - òàì èñëàì íà 2ì ïëàíå, òàì âñå áîëüøå íàö. íàïðÿæåííîñòü...

Íó à â åäèíóþ íåçàâèñèìóþ Ñèáèðü ÿ íå âåðþ. Ðóññêîå íàñåëåíèå Ñèáèðè, ïî-ìîåìó, âåñüìà ïàòðèîòè÷íî, à óðîâåíü æèçíè â áîëüøèõ ãîðîäàõ (òèïà òîãî æå Íîâîñèáèðñêà) äîñòàòî÷íî âûñîê, ÷òîáû èñêëþ÷èòü âîçìîæíîñòü áåñïîðÿäêà.

To all: please pardon my Russian

Õèìåðà ãîâîðèò: ìîãåò áûòü, íî ÿ âñå áîëüøå ïàòðèîò Ñèáèðè íåæåëè ÷åì Ìîñêâû, òóò äàæå ðå÷ü íå î ïàòðèîòèçìå (êàêîé-òàì ïàòðèîòèçì î÷åðåäíîé êóëüò ëè÷íîñòè, áëèí!!!) À î ðåãèîíàëüíîì ñàìîñîçíàíèè...

Sorry my Russian too

 

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Originally posted by Walter Hawkwood


I thought they were going to be changed. Maybe we should adopt Zeus's and mine combined rebel lists? They are... um... somehow more realistic. Or at least incorporate them in existing list.

Well, the game will last 200 years into the future, so there are no realistic revolters, uncept early in the game. I've planned to put them in, but I haven't done it yet (too lazy) and also we have alot of them already.

Also, we need to know wich provinces they need. I've no idea what provinces Aceh shall have.

Look in the first post so you can see wich countries we have added. Euskadia, Scotland, wales, Kurdistan (kurds of course) Palestine etc is already added.

 

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Flandres

Get rid of it!!

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

Originally posted by Mormegil


Well, the game will last 200 years into the future, so there are no realistic revolters, uncept early in the game. I've planned to put them in, but I haven't done it yet (too lazy) and also we have alot of them already.

Also, we need to know wich provinces they need. I've no idea what provinces Aceh shall have.

Look in the first post so you can see wich countries we have added. Euskadia, Scotland, wales, Kurdistan (kurds of course) Palestine etc is already added.

So you want me these countries made first. I'mon it already. I'll do both lists, so that noone gets upset

 

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GoodCan you make flags too? Look in the "MDS events: America" thread to see the american ones. And there's also some in the MDS Graphics Thread (in the graphic forum).

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

I'm making flags where I can (and I can most of the time). A couple of ones I couldn't handle I'll offer as a "free contest" in graphic forum requests.

Khimaira, as I am now responsive for all the rebel graphics, which flag you would recommend for free Siberia? There are quite a few.

 

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I'm sure he want the Green/white flag he posted.

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

Originally posted by Mormegil
I'm sure he want the Green/white flag he posted.

There is a whole bunch of green/white flags hanging around. I have nothing against this particular, but there are more beautiful ones:

 

[Kyran]

I think it was the one he mentioned in his post on the graphics thread.

 

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I mentioned this one:

 

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Originally posted by Walter Hawkwood


There is a whole bunch of green/white flags hanging around. I have nothing against this particular, but there are more beautiful ones:

But this flag is of mythical United States of Northern Siberia.

The flag Mormegil showed is much better and more realistic if that's the word...

 

[Gathenhielm]

Yes but W-K's flag looks better.

 

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Use W-K's as a shield, and the other one as the flag

 

[Gathenhielm]

Fine with me