Revising Italy.

[Prometheus_1]

I made for a commission an Historical map of Italy with some regional subdivision.

I wish the Italian Peninsula could get more care and detailing in the game .

https://www.deviantart.com/n-a-i-m-a/art/Renaissence-Italy-744212539

 

[gigau]

to the Suggestions subforum.

 

[Van Kasten]

Premise: I am Italian and I’m in favor of adding new provinces and flavor to Italy.

It is a bit too fragmented in my opinion. Some of these provinces would be too small to be clickable. Just think of what the HRE could become with that province density.

That said, I support addition of new tags (Saluzzo, Ancona, Camerino, Perugia and Bologna in primis) and new strategic depth in the Italian Peninsula. I hope to see a better Italy in game in the near future.

 

[Prometheus_1]

My sugestion wasn't to use that map to fragment Italy into so many states, but pick the major ones and implement them better,
PEsonally I would revise the administrative subdivision of the Neapolitan state and Sardinia and Corsica , then add Ravenna PErugia, Camerino , Saluzzo, revise the islands of Croatia into Veglia , the Romagnan coast etc...

 

[Van Kasten]

My sugestion wasn't to use that map to fragment Italy into so many states, but pick the major ones and implement them better,
PEsonally I would revise the administrative subdivision of the Neapolitan state and Sardinia and Corsica , then add Ravenna PErugia, Camerino , Saluzzo, revise the islands of Croatia into Veglia , the Romagnan coast etc...

The Romagnan coast may be tricky to implement, as the various states were very very small.

 

[Prometheus_1]

I did this mod some time ago...

Unfortunately I dunno how to make compatible with latest expansions.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=italian&id=612459817

 

[Van Kasten]

The Signoria of Ferrara and the Ducky of Modena-Reggio we’re bordering each other. To recreate all those little Romagnan states you had to sacrifice to border between the two. I think that adding more tags and provinces is fine, but is not always convenient. If the little Romagnan states are to be in base-game, what about the HRE? A nightmare.

But, on the other hand, you have convinced me that the Signoria of Massa and Carrara can be added in-game without transforming them and Lucca on two Italian Frankfurts.

 

[Prometheus_1]

The romagnan city states could be assembled all into one single region , and so we can have the Cesare Borgia campaign work directly on those.

 

[Van Kasten]

I understand your thinking, but in my opinion it’s better to have the “major” states and nothing more.

As I stated, the only tags I wish to be added in Italy are Saluzzo (more strategic depth in Piedmont), Ancona, Bologna, Camerino, Perugia (more historical realism in the Papal States) and Massa-Carrara (since it will be clickable). For the rest, a bit more provinces and a ton of flavor events, decisions and mission coupled with some new NIs would be a fantastic update to Italy.