Revenge is a dish best served cold: a Commune of France MDS-KR AAR

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The Greco-Turkish War

On 10 October 2006, just four days after the proclamation of indipendence of Turkey, two news drew the attention of the world: the first was from Cairo, where the King Fuad II officialy declared the union of Egypt and the ex-Ottoman province of Syria into a new United Arab Republic, aiming to represent and give the same rights to all the ethnic groups of the Levant. A new flag was proposed, composed by the traditional Arab Tricolor plus two stars representing Egypt and the Levant. Invitation have been sent to Gheddafi (who also shared the dream of a Pan-Arab union) asking Libya to join, but is unknown if he would accept or would prefer to stay indipendent.

The second news came from Greece, where the government didn't recognize the legality of the Turkish Republic. Under the pretext of saving from ethnic violence the Greek and Albanian minorities, the King Costantine signed the declaration of war on Turkey. Even without Rumanian and Serbian support, whose armies had to patrol the Hungarian border, Greek troops advanced into Thrace and Anatolia defeating the enemy troops mainly thanks to sheer numbers and the support of the aviation, equipped with brand new F-16E/Fs bought from the USA.

An F-16 flying over the Aegean towards Bursa
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Despite the stubborn resistance the Turkish army continued to withdraw, losing Istanbul, Izmit, Izmir and finally Ankara to the advancing Hellenic divisions. But the situation worsened: when Greek commandos reached Kayseri they found the secret nuclear facility the Sultan build to product atomic bombs, hoping to discourage the ECON to act aggressively against the Empire. At the end the Sultan prefered not to use it even in such an extreme situation, well knowing its potential; unfortunately now the Belgrade Pact owned two atomic devices, thus unbalancing the status quo with MittelEuropa. The war continued without anyone becoming aware of the discovery, and Turkey became officialy annexed by Greece when Cyprus felt, on 19 february 1007.

Hellenic Marines just landed on Cyprian coast

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What will happen to Anatolia now? Probably the King would like to change his name to Emperor and move the capital from Athens to Costantinople, but what will be the fate of millions of Turks and Kurds? I can see Kurdistan, maybe also a small Turkish puppet around Ankara? There can also be a small Armenian state in Kars, although this would probably anger the Russians...

 

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Rebirth of Byzantion...that was unexpected !

 

[Razgriz 2K9]

either a: Recreate the Anatolian Wars mod Anatolia (i.e. Puppet Turkey, Kurdistan, Armenia and Pontus) while keeping Western Turkey for Greece

or b: Move the capital to Constantinople and mod it to become the Byzantine Empire.

And is it me, or is that the Bavarian coat of arms in the Greek flag?

 

[Asalto]

Greeks can revive Byzantine Empire(with Greek king claiming title of Byzantine Emperor), but things must be keept plausible, so Neo-Byzantine Empire should be multiethnic state that grants national, cultural and political rights to all of it's nations(Greeks, Turks and Kurds as major nations). Maybe it could be some kind of federation or something. But it simply can't be Greater Greece or something, it would be unplausible if Greeks would be able to keep so many people of diffrent nationalities under their command. Mixed cabinet would be the best solution: Greek Emperor and some Greek ministers, some Turkish ministers and also a Kurdish representative or two. Just my two cents of opinion.

 

[Kurt_Steiner]

Rebirth of Byzantion...that was unexpected !

My thoughts, exactly.

 

[Zhuge Liang]

I didn't expect the Greeks to do so well, what was Germany doing during the war?

The Greeks will certainly want to reclaim Constantinople and Western Anatolia, but I doubt they'd want or be easily able to occupy the whole of former Turkey. They should create Armenian and Kurdish states- those groups would have been oppressed by the Turks so are likely to be willing allies of the Greeks, then create a puppet Turkish state centred around Ankara. This plan'll probably end up requiring mass population transfers so it could certainly be messy to say the least but it is likely to be beneficial for Greece.

 

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My intention was not to recreate Bysantium, but something more on the line of Greater Greece, with Turkey, Kurdistan and Armenia as puppets (or maybe Armenia free, just an ally). I made a really bad picture (paint FTW) to explain how I mean to divide the provinces:

Azure is Greece, blu is Armenia, yellow Kurdistan and color-I'm-not-able-to-define is Turkey. As Zhuge Liang said, it would probably require mass transfers, but without the '19-22 war and the Istanbul pogrom we can assume the Greek are still quite numerous on the coasts. I'm not sure about how many Armenians there will be in the new state, but is likely that many people would try to escape from Russia to became members of this friendly country. And sure Kurdistan is gonna anger the ECON.

About Germany, there won't do nothing untill the Bosphorus is open to them, and they still don't know about the two atomic bombs.

Feel free to post your modifications for this map

 

[SovietAmerika]

I say stop the new Greek border a little further west, aka Izmit, Usak, Antalya, and Cyprus being the easternmost provinces. Make Armenia, Turkey, and Kurdistan from the rest.

 

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I say stop the new Greek border a little further west, aka Izmit, Usak, Antalya, and Cyprus being the easternmost provinces. Make Armenia, Turkey, and Kurdistan from the rest.

This !

 

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Sorry for the delay, but I've just changed computer and I had to transfer all my files plus setup everything, so my computer-time was spent mainly on those things. Anyway a quick update now, I will try to complete it by this evening... Not shown, but I've divided Turkey as SovietAmerika proposed.

23 February 2007, hrs 20.00
France Télévisions

"[...] And now the news from abroad: today the Greek King Costantine XIII officialy moved the Hellenic capital from Athens to Istanbul, which will be renamed Costantinople. Mass protests by the Turkish people were sparked by the announcement of the creation of a Turkish state in central Anatolia, thus eliminating the possibility of a multinational state and forcing millions of people to move from the Aegean region. Apparently this will be the last modification of the status of Anatolia, after, as you surely remember, the creation of Armenia and Kurdistan three days ago near the border with Russia and Persia respectively."

"A news just arrived from the direction: the United Arab Republic is now at war with both Libya and Ethiopia. By the news soon leaked it seems that the the King Fuad II did not accept the Ethiopian refusal to cede Eritrea and Somalia to the new Arab Federation. The Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi (who was previously offered to join the Federation) supported the Ethiopian King Zera Yacob Selassie against the United Arab Republic, thus leading at the declaration of war against the two countries."

Egyptian tank moving towards the Libyan border
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18 June 2007, hrs 14.00
Hôtel Matignon, Paris

Foreign Minister Besancenot was introduced in the Chairman's room: the news has just arrived and he wanted the Prime Minister to be the first to know it. When he entered was surprised to found that the Chairman was already talking to someone; "I... I was told that you were free, the secretary..." he tried to explain embarrassed. The unknown man smiled for his awkwardness and stood up: "Oh don't worry, I'm just leaving. Let me know if you are interested, mensieur Gaysott". When the man left, Besancenot was still wondering what kind of accent was that and only a gentle recall kept him from his thoughts: "Mr Chairman, I just wanted to inform you that Gaddafi has just signed the unconditional surrender of his country to the United Arab Federation, after two weeks the city has been surrounded. Now they have a really long border with the Exiles, and the situation could become really worrying in both ways if war escalates, since we can not allow the Entete to controll Suez and all the Middle Eastern oil nor let Algeri be controlled by Arabs; I mean, they are the Exiles, but they are still French." "Don't worry" -said the Chairman- "they won't be so fool to anger both Entete and MittelEuropa: remember that they claim also the German Horn of Africa and various regions of MittelAfrika..." [1]

Notice the stalemate with Ethiopia, Eritrea is lost but they managed to reach Khartum

Libyan EE-9 near Tripoli​

4 December 2007, hrs 15.00
Palais Bourbon, Paris

"Gentlemen" -started Gaysott- "I have called you here to discuss about the recent developments concerning the Middle East. As you have probably heard from the news few hours ago ECON troops have reached Mogadishu and forced the Ethiopian Emperor to surrender what was left of the country to them. [2] The Exiles are really scared of a possible invasion in the near future and our spies reported a massive build up of troops along the borders, and they are also worried about Arab rebellions in the colonial areas. Fortunately for them India is on their side, and I doubt that Persia or Turkestan would follow the UAR in such a suicidal war."

Ethiopian soldiers before the beginning of the war​

"Talking about this" -continued the Chairman- "I leave the floor to Mr Besancenot, who surely know the situation better than me"."Thank you, mensieur President" -answered Besancenot- "In the last two years the ECON has shown its muscles, from the defensive war against the Ottoman Empire to the unmotivated aggression to Libya and Ethiopia. It's clear that they wanted to show the world that they were not just German puppets, blindly obeying to Berlin, and this was the aim of the provocation to the Ottomans. But now the alliance is deeply divided: the success of the Egyptian Army in the ottoman war has increased the desire of conquest of the King Fuad II and him and the Saudi King Abdullah use the victory as propaganda against the "Western oppressors". The balance of power has swiftly changed in these years: Turkestan lost his industrial supremacy to the UAF, and the age-old hate between Sunnis and Shiites is re-emerging. The Euphrates ended up to outline the two blocks: on one side the UAR and Saudi Arabia, on the other Persia, Azerbaijan and Turkestan. In my opinion, is a miracle if they are not fighting each other right now."

"Thank you for the exposition, Besancenot" -concluded the Chairman- "Now his better to look at our army: Mensieur Bentegeat, would you like the expose the current situation?"."Surely, Mensieur President: the Armée française is made up by 487,000 men, divided as you can see in this chart. Still our army is small compared to the German or Russian ones, which have 747,000 and 1,058,000 men respectively. Fortunately our spies report that we have a slight technological advantage. About this, we are currently equiping our infantries with FÉLIN suits and weaponry, which will greatly increase our combact capacity. We are also researching new models for VBCI and Tanks, plus new technologies for our aircraft. It's likely that by 2010 we will have 5th generation Multiroles."

Soldiers wearing FÉLIN suits​

[1] I know, pretty much useless chapter, but I wanted to introduce this mysterious character. Is still early for him to intervene, but it's clear that he is planning something with Gaysott...

[2] What would UAR do to Ethiopia? Would it try to convet as much population as possible or would it release a puppet to calm 70 millions of Orthodox?

 

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Wow Egypt is becoming a rather serious regional power.

 

[Razgriz 2K9]

What's not to say that the UAR can become a superpower. But only if they gain the support of it's Arab members.

 

[kataak]

From where i can get KR-MDS mod?
plz?

 

[Kurt_Steiner]

As far as I can tell, there is no KR-MDS mod, but a few madmen -me among them- that modify the MDS mod to reproduce, somehow, the KR into the MDS.

 

[Zhuge Liang]

The UAR looks strong right now but if it attracts the attention of a serious power such as Germany I doubt it'll last long. It is in the embarrassing position of being forced to a stalemate by Ethiopia at the moment after all.

 

[Razgriz 2K9]

As far as I can tell, there is no KR-MDS mod, but a few madmen -me among them- that modify the MDS mod to reproduce, somehow, the KR into the MDS.

He's right, if you're good with modding, you could reproduce Kaiserreich into the MDS. Only reason why I don't...Don't know how to use the NTL mod.

 

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Updated the previous post. Sorry if there is any grammar error, I will fix any typo tomorrow o

@Karaiskandar: really, but they suffered huge casualities during these wars. Unfortunately Egyptian AI is not smart enough to effectively use the airforce...

@Razgriz 2K9: Eh eh, this is the tough part... Anyway, I would really like to see other MDS-KR AAR, and I assume NTL is No Time Limit, right? Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

@kataak: as Kurt_Steiner and Razgriz 2K9 said, there is no KR-MDS mod, just three madmen (untill now) that created four possible worlds of how could have KR gone. If you can edit you can create the fifth.

Zhuge Liang: well, Ethiopia had a pretty big army, it was just horrendously outdated. And yes, UAR better calm down if they don't want to be smashed in five seconds by the Germans...

 

[Patukov]

Ethiopian puppet

 

[Asalto]

That was quite a neat update, it's interesting to see all those Egyptian adventures. Btw, is UAR actually a republic, or a monarchy? It's ruled by Egyptian king, but it's called a republic. Is king only a president now, or is this some kind of aristocratic republic? I'm a bit confused, sorry, and I also like to nitpick too much. Oh, and rename Palais Bourbon into Palace of Workers or something similar, it would be more Syndicalist like.

UAR should also fully anex Ethiopia, it could give her autonomy inside UAR, since United Arab Republic is federation anyway.

 

[Razgriz 2K9]

It might be a Noble Republic (using the EUIII term there) but either way, I say release Ethiopia as a puppet state, but act as if it was an autonomus part of the federation anyway.