Rev War CB, won't accept my defeat...

[LarryLeica]

Ok, so I've had two goes with this as Sweden trying to change to a merchant republic. The only Merchant Republic left that is accessible for me is The Hansa. In the first war, I completely wiped the floor with them and even at 100% score they would not accept my concession of defeat to change my government having a -1000 penalty for 'not interested in demand' (or similar). So I went for round two, and in the intervening time they managed to get themselves an ungodly set of alliances, so decided to purposely lose this one and try and peace out at various points, alas I am still getting the -1000 penalty no matter how many ducats I throw in the deal, and my 'empire' has been decimated in the war...

A bit confused, I remember doing this in an earlier version but haven't tried this recently, so has this changed?

Of course, the other option is to accept demands of some peasants but I thought that made you a Noble Republic, which of course doesn't get access Plutocracy IIRC. Is it then possible to switch from a NR to a MR?

 

[jonnydesperado]

This doesn't work anymore, as it was deemed quite silly indeed that people intentionally "lost" wars to turn themselves into a Republic.

You can indeed become a Merchant Republic as another Republic, all you have to do is complete Trade Ideas in order to get a decision. If all you want is Plutocracy, though, you can still change from a Noble Republic to any of the other 'advanced' Republic government forms the normal way.

 

[TheBloke]

It works fine, I tested it the other day. Not sure what's happening for OP, you definitely have 100% war score from sieging all provinces? And utterly Defeated modifier showing?

 

[TheBloke]

From when I tested it last time. I sent the offer and became a Merchant Republic.

 

[LarryLeica]

Thanks for the responses.

Yes it was rather bizarre, I had 100% in the first war and they would not accept it but were quite happy to accept anything else including their own annihilation. The second time around I let it get to -93% after many attempts they would never accept and ended up abandoning it.

The only thing I can think of that could have prevented it was that the HRE emperor joined in on both occasions, however, The Hansa retained war leader, so I was negotiating with them. Am certain I had done this within the HRE pre-1.3 in any case...

As far as gamey tactics go, I don't like doing this type of thing, but also would like to see some way of switching between government types without having to resort to this, or letting certain rebels win a siege. Maybe some sort of 'Reform the Government' for the western tech group...

EDIT: and yes I was after Plutocracy and selectable rulers, as have had so much bad luck with 1/0/2 type rulers recently I'm losing my hair...

 

[hauptman]

Every single province needs to be occupied... 100 warscore NOT including battles, blockades, or bonuses. every province... dont miss one.

 

[Noctus]

Every single province needs to be occupied... 100 warscore NOT including battles, blockades, or bonuses. every province... dont miss one.

/this.

You most probably missed some province somewhere.