Returning military control

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Hello,

I am experimenting a bit here on trying to get Ethiopia to stay alive. For some reason Italy is unbelievably aggresive on this account and I had to assume control of my Russian ally to ship in a few units to help guard this shores. The Italians willingly (and beyond my comprehension) send their entire army minus 3 units to die on the shores of Asmara. Needless to say the "Zog refuse" event was hilarious. (NOTE: This was on weakling aggression.....)
Now that Italy is out of the game I can look ahead to have a small but funny adventure trying to squeze my few units in here and there. However I am not overly fond of the idea of controling the USSR units any more. I have no idea on whats in the redeploy/production queue and cannot devise any solid strategy. So there's the question after much ado - how to return military control? Quitting the alliance won't work (with strange side-effects I might tell you. You could eventually wind up playing solitary).

PS: Needless to say this took a lot of reloads. The tip for the curious is to gain access through UK territory. And be extremely lucky (a.k.a. the magic reload button).

 

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Returing military control is not possible in the game . You are stock with the russian hordes!

It may be possible to do it trough the savefile tough. I'm good in messin in there but I never looked for the military control part since I never do it when I play.

If it is in the save game file, it might be either in the Ethiopia section or Soviet section. Maybe somebody knows exactly where.

 

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Returing military control is not possible in the game . You are stock with the russian hordes!

It may be possible to do it trough the savefile tough. I'm good in messin in there but I never looked for the military control part since I never do it when I play.

If it is in the save game file, it might be either in the Ethiopia section or Soviet section. Maybe somebody knows exactly where.

Thank you. On a second attempt I actually managed to wipe out the entire Italian army single handed! The AI treats Asmara completely nuts. I had 11 militia and 1 infantry with skill 6 defensive marshal on rocky shores. Italian shore attack with the lot. Whack. Everything he had was on 1% eff. There ought to be a "this is not worth it" switch in the AI .

Regardless I'd like to know how to remove MC. It is not the first time I have had the problem (the dreadfully defensive French AI for instance) and it only seems logical that it can be removed (i.e. it ain't cheating IMHO - after all you pay a DI price for the service).

This is the kind of fun you can only have with HoI.

 

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Thank you. On a second attempt I actually managed to wipe out the entire Italian army single handed! The AI treats Asmara completely nuts. I had 11 militia and 1 infantry with skill 6 defensive marshal on rocky shores. Italian shore attack with the lot. Whack. Everything he had was on 1% eff. There ought to be a "this is not worth it" switch in the AI .

Regardless I'd like to know how to remove MC. It is not the first time I have had the problem (the dreadfully defensive French AI for instance) and it only seems logical that it can be removed (i.e. it ain't cheating IMHO - after all you pay a DI price for the service).

This is the kind of fun you can only have with HoI.

Patience. I'll look into it and will get back at you soon.

 

[Patriotes1837]

I've got it!


Open the savefile (name of your game).eug with a text editor (wordpad works fine) NOT (name of your game).cfg


With the search function (binoculars), type: tag = sov exactly like that.


Scroll down a while, you will go trough these sections:

AI - Bomber - garrison - military - front - construction - technology AND then Badboy.

Now scroll down carefully after badboy. At one point you should see capital and then control = "ETH" just before a list of leaders

I'm pretty sure if you erase the line control = "ETH" , it should take care of the problem. Save the file, reload and enjoy



PS: Make a copy of the savefile before doing the modifications I gave you cause you never know what might happen. I don't want to be accused of screwing your game

 

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I've got it!


Open the savefile (name of your game).eug with a text editor (wordpad works fine) NOT (name of your game).cfg


With the search function (binoculars), type: tag = sov exactly like that.


Scroll down a while, you will go trough these sections:

AI - Bomber - garrison - military - front - construction - technology AND then Badboy.

Now scroll down carefully after badboy. At one point you should see capital and then control = "ETH" just before a list of leaders

I'm pretty sure if you erase the line control = "ETH" , it should take care of the problem. Save the file, reload and enjoy



PS: Make a copy of the savefile before doing the modifications I gave you cause you never know what might happen. I don't want to be accused of screwing your game

Wow. I'm impressed greatly! So those large .eug chunks are scripts!? I would never have guessed. Definately good to know. Removing control makes that feature a whole lot more versatile. Sometimes the AI plays like a bag of nuts and need that little helping hand to figure out which key positions _must_ be defended or attacked. Ethiopia is a good example. With a minimum investment the Russians can make the Italian pay dearly for their African adventure.

I know this is laziness on my behalf, but is there a guide to save-game hacking? Since it's not a matter of hex-editing I bet someone has written down the basics somewhere.

However I am sticking with my current game. By getting access through France, UK, Turkey, Greece and Yugo I managed to walk a 10 unit stack up and annex Italy in mid 1938 with ETHIOPIA. I guess old-timers on the board are hard to impress, but this is definately my number one achievement in the game. Don't think the Germans up north appreciate a Left-Wing African government in Rome . I feel a DOW coming up soonish. Luckily my homeland seems safe and the Messina strait ought to be defensible. Also spells bad news for the Japs that the RN is free'd up in the Med. Oh well. Enough drivel.

 

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Wow. I'm impressed greatly! So those large .eug chunks are scripts!? I would never have guessed. Definately good to know.

You can do almost anything by altering the savefile.

I know this is laziness on my behalf, but is there a guide to save-game hacking? Since it's not a matter of hex-editing I bet someone has written down the basics somewhere.

Not that I know of. There is this site:

Havard's masterpeice

But it's to alter the scenario files and the database. Not the save-game.

The best way to learn how to alter the savefile is to open one up and have a look. It's not that difficult once you know the game terms and understand how it is written. At least, that's how I learned.

By getting access through France, UK, Turkey, Greece and Yugo I managed to walk a 10 unit stack up and annex Italy in mid 1938 with ETHIOPIA. I guess old-timers on the board are hard to impress, but this is definately my number one achievement in the game. Don't think the Germans up north appreciate a Left-Wing African government in Rome . I feel a DOW coming up soonish. Luckily my homeland seems safe and the Messina strait ought to be defensible. Also spells bad news for the Japs that the RN is free'd up in the Med.

You had enough DI toask military access in all these countries?

Anyway, you are part of the commintern I presume? Good luck trying to stop Germany in Italy once they are at war with the Soviet Union Your best chance might be to build a lot of land forts in Bologna (I think - that mountain province in the middle of Italy which cuts the country in half). Then you put your troops there and you should be able to stop the Germans until the russians start kicking their butts.

 

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You can do almost anything by altering the savefile.

Calls for self control.

The best way to learn how to alter the savefile is to open one up and have a look. It's not that difficult once you know the game terms and understand how it is written. At least, that's how I learned.

To be or not to be a geek.

You had enough DI to ask military access in all these countries?

You can ask for one every 4 months IIRC. So in two years - yes, it's doable. Besides UK access is a number one priority so you can attack Asmara from Khartoum and such.

Anyway, you are part of the commintern I presume? Good luck trying to stop Germany in Italy once they are at war with the Soviet Union Your best chance might be to build a lot of land forts in Bologna (I think - that mountain province in the middle of Italy which cuts the country in half). Then you put your troops there and you should be able to stop the Germans until the russians start kicking their butts.

Actually I enrolled into the Allies this time as my alliance drifted far towards Democracy when I annexed Italy. In the previous game I exploited the "demand territory" feature where you move _away_ from the targets alliance on rejection. Since both France and UK (where you have claims) are rock-solid democracies I could push far enough left to have USSR let me in. However they don't seem to do much help anyhow and DI is dear in this scenario.

I stopped them at Messina. I was smart enough to build two destroyer groups so I can permanently block them off. We won't see the Kriegsmarine in the Med this time and Italy is as said long gone. For some reason UK insist on landing in Tarantino even though Sicily is on allied hands. Hopefully the US are smarter.

I simply don't have the manpower (was 0.7/mth with Compasionate Gent) for a slugging match at Bolognia. Otherwise that would have been prudent. Also I need to keep a rear guard on Tripoli and at Djibuoti (Vichy - Djibouti is two hexes from my capital) so I can really only muster 8-10 divisions for the defense of Italy. Not enough by a long shot. Again one could wish the French and UK would do the smart thing and actually send help when it is needed... not throw it away at Panzers on the beach when it is far far too late anyhow.