Results for the community achievement contest

[Ivankovsky]

So the results are out, and the memes won pretty much:

3rd place - I am the Senate
"Achieve 100% support in both the Senate and the House as democratic USA."
Do people even look at anything besides the name? This is easily the most boring achievement of the whole list, no doubting the amount of enjoyment doing nothing but pressing the lobbying button. . .

2rd place - The chad Chad
"Take all of Africa as Chad."
Of the memes, this is my favorite, but would also be the most difficult due to Chad's population, not just everyone gets to be a Chad after all.

1st place winner and confirmed to be included in the game - Finish him
"Conquer all of the Soviet Union as Finland, without joining a faction."
Does "conquer" mean occupy or own? In any case, winning a race vs Germany to take the USSR is next to impossible, the way I see it, the most optimal way to do this is to wait for Germany to annex the USSR, then capitulate Germany (forming the Nordic Union while you wait), this defeats the whole point of the achievement, you'll be pretty much forced to fight Germany instead of the USSR...

I think they should change it to "occupy Moscow as Finland" or more fittingly "be the one to capitulate the USSR as Finland".

 

[sekelsenmat]

1st place winner and confirmed to be included in the game - Finish him
"Conquer all of the Soviet Union as Finland, without joining a faction."
Does "conquer" mean occupy or own? In any case, winning a race vs Germany to take the USSR is next to impossible, the way I see it, the most optimal way to do this is to wait for Germany to annex the USSR, then capitulate Germany (forming the Nordic Union while you wait), this defeats the whole point of the achievement, you'll be pretty much forced to fight Germany instead of the USSR...

I think they should change it to "occupy Moscow as Finland" or more fittingly "be the one to capitulate the USSR as Finland".

Maybe if you restart a few times in non-historical to get Germany to go "Oppose Hitler" then it won't attack USSR and you can do it the normal way?

 

[Ivankovsky]

Maybe if you restart a few times in non-historical to get Germany to go "Oppose Hitler" then it won't attack USSR and you can do it the normal way?

This almost never happens though, if I remember correctly it had a 10% change of being the AI's pick.
Paradox sometimes doesn't give to much though into these achievements, ruining their theme and making them much more frustrating than they have to be, like the old Chinese achievements before they patch them; objective "unite China!", only way to do it: "conquer the WORLD!" because technically 3 tiny European ports exist.
Same thing with "Macau my day"...

 

[Mr_Dimento]

This achievement is going to be a nightmare to do. Completely annex an entire superpower before the Germans get a piece of the pie? Not to mention Finnish factories And manpower are horrible. You can’t even ask for support from other factions as they will mess up the peace deal.

I personally voted for Quick Revolution as that seemed very fun to try

 

[Spelaren]

Chad chad is more interesting than this.

 

[Ivankovsky]

This achievement is going to be a nightmare to do. Completely annex an entire superpower before the Germans get a piece of the pie? Not to mention Finnish factories And manpower are horrible. You can’t even ask for support from other factions as they will mess up the peace deal.

I personally voted for Quick Revolution as that seemed very fun to try

Well you can form the Nordic Union to get more factories and manpower, but yeah the achievement is lazily done right now.
I also think Quick Revolution was the best realized of the whole list, if they boost Trotsky to make better use of the spy system that is, otherwise its a USSR conquer the world exploit run.

 

[Dlin369]

I wish Chad Chad or Quick Revolution won, but hopefully when Finland gets fleshed out it becomes at least more fun (if not less difficult, because honestly there's no way Finland should be able to conquer the whole Soviet Union) to finish the achievement. Also I hope the achievement icon looks cool

 

[kettyo]

AI Germany will never oppose Hitler but they might be bogged down in Western Europe and then you get a chance.

 

[Duke_Dave]

Oh FGS that was the worst of them all. I have those achievements which are basically only possible by breaking the game.
Something like play as Finland don't join a faction, don't cave in to the soviets and don't capitulate till 1946 would have been better

 

[Iskulya]

This almost never happens though, if I remember correctly it had a 10% change of being the AI's pick.
Paradox sometimes doesn't give to much though into these achievements, ruining their theme and making them much more frustrating than they have to be, like the old Chinese achievements before they patch them; objective "unite China!", only way to do it: "conquer the WORLD!" because technically 3 tiny European ports exist.
Same thing with "Macau my day"...

IIRC the weight of the AI going occupy the Rhineland is ten times that of Opposing Hitler. In practice this amounts to the AI choosing to do the former more than 99% of the time as differences in the weight of focuses does not correspond so neatly to a flat percentage like that. Personally I have never seen the AI choose to Oppose Hitler without being made to do so in the rules, nor has anyone I've played with when it's been mentioned. I recall someone doing the math on the AI's actual likelihood of taking "Oppose Hitler" accounting for focus weight and it was something like less than a 1 in 200 chance.

But yeah, it's frustrating.

 

[Cpt.Cross]

IIRC the weight of the AI going occupy the Rhineland is ten times that of Opposing Hitler. In practice this amounts to the AI choosing to do the former more than 99% of the time as differences in the weight of focuses does not correspond so neatly to a flat percentage like that. Personally I have never seen the AI choose to Oppose Hitler without being made to do so in the rules, nor has anyone I've played with when it's been mentioned. I recall someone doing the math on the AI's actual likelihood of taking "Oppose Hitler" accounting for focus weight and it was something like less than a 1 in 200 chance.

But yeah, it's frustrating.

I can confirm that the AI will oppose hitler if you restart enough. Its how I managed to get my 'bearer of artillery; achievement.. But the chance is so low I wouldn't rely on it.

 

[Mr_Dimento]

The fact we have to save scum to get the AI to perform a certain way to make an achievement even dream able about doing is sad

 

[Spelaren]

The fact we have to save scum to get the AI to perform a certain way to make an achievement even dream able about doing is sad

If they only made non historical non historical random... USA never goes alt history, same with germany.

 

[kettyo]

If they only made non historical non historical random... USA never goes alt history, same with germany.

I'd rather want a semi-historical mode with all the fantasy paths excluded but with the AI having a freedom to choose between plausible directions.