Restricting Coastal Wars to Neighboring Provinces

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Anyone who's played a 1.05c game in the Mediterranean has undoubtedly observed the Coastal Wars waged by Genoa, Pisa, and Venice. In an effort to curtail the use of the Coastal Republic Claim, it has been suggested that the claim be restricted to neighboring provinces (in the way that many mods restrict Holy Wars).

I've some experience tinkering with the Crusader King txt files, but its language still eludes me (namely, the use of brackets). Below is the vanilla entry for the Coastal Republic Claim in cb_types.txt. Emboldened are the lines I've added to implement the aforementioned change. Simply put, is this formatted correctly?

can_use = {
ROOT = {
is_republic = yes
capital_scope = {
port = yes
any_realm_province = {
any_neighbor_province = {
}
}
}

 

[Meneth]

It's formatted correctly from what I can see, but in its current form it wouldn't do anything as you're not checking any conditions, just changing scope.
Instead, you'd want something like this:

any_realm_province = {    any_neighbor_province = {
        owner = {
            top_liege = {
                character = FROM
            }
        }
    }
}

Here you're checking if any province bordering your realm is in the realm of the character you're attacking (FROM).

 

[Arko]

It's formatted correctly from what I can see, but in its current form it wouldn't do anything as you're not checking any conditions, just changing scope.
Instead, you'd want something like this:

any_realm_province = {    any_neighbor_province = {
        owner = {
            top_liege = {
                character = FROM
            }
        }
    }
}

Here you're checking if any province bordering your realm is in the realm of the character you're attacking (FROM).

shouldn't it make ignoring oversea province like corsica or sardegna ?

 

[Meneth]

shouldn't it make ignoring oversea province like corsica or sardegna ?

It would, yes. One workaround would be having an exception for any province in the same de jure kingdom:

OR = {	ROOT = {
		owner = {
			any_realm_province = {
				any_neighbor_province = {
					owner = {
						top_liege = {
							character = FROM
						}
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}
	FROM = {
		kingdom = {
			ROOT = {
				kingdom = {
					title = PREVPREV
				}
			}
		}
	}
}

This would have to be inserted into can_use_title.

 

[Closet Skeleton]

If you're going to stop Genoa and Venice going after Krete, the Aegean Islands or Kaffa you might as well just cut the cassus belli completely.

Forcing the AI to control long coastal blocks centered on its capital doesn't make much sence.

 

[unmerged(458565)]

True, Closet Skeleton. Nonetheless, it's a learning experience in scripting

 

[waylit1]

Here are two problems with Republic Coastal Wars in 1.05c:

1 - The Republics rise to overseas permanent power about 100 years before they really should. Yes, they played a role in the first two Crusades, but only really within the scope of the Crusades themselves. No Crusades = no Genoans sailing troops to the Holy Land.

2 - The Republics take territory from places they were incentivized not to take, like Catholic Italy. There was this Pope guy...and around 1100, he was not too keen on the olde Feudal Structure being torn down. Though this eventually happened, in this game the Republics seem to eradicate Feudalism from Italy fairly quickly, and then it never goes back. The problem? Hardly any CBs on Republics, and you can't marry into them...so it takes these places out of The Game for the player.

My suggestions:

1 - Remove starting buildings from Republics, to slow their development. It is not like anybody has CBs on them, anyway.

2 - Restrict the Coastal CB to non-Catholics only. Then we might actually see Genoa in the Crimea rather than...Capua.

 

[Multicast]

Another possible suggestion. Simply have the CB only give the city holding in the county to the republic, the castle and temple remain with the feudal lord. That also fixes the problem of feudal lords not having a CB on republic. Should the feudal leader grow strong enough, he can retake his city with a dejure claim war.