"My King, a herald from Provence has arrived: The new king Henri d'frenchname has ascended to the throne!"
"What?! But the old king, Louis d'Valois, was my cousin!... And also, my Uncle. And, actually, he was- Whatever! This insult cannot stand! Muster the troops!"
Considering how much influence blood-lines had on politics in the earlier part of EU4's timeframe, I find it strange that a pretender can put himself on the throne of a major-power, and the relatives of the previous king won't bat an eyelid. They should be able to declare war on this upstart to restore the throne to the family to which it rightfully belongs. It probably shouldn't provide an opportunity for a personal union (things might get a bit silly) but in the above example, the king of France, or one of his relatives would have a much more legitimate claim to the throne of Provence than this Pretender. Likewise, if a neighbour with the same dynasty gets overthrown by rebels and has their government overthrown and turned into a republic, you should get the government form CB to allow reactionaries to restore the old monarchy.
As an aside, I also think that, if a monarch dies without an heir, and a noble from a different dynasty takes the throne, nations from the old dynasty should be able to contest it. So if Russia, Castille both have the Plantagenet dynasty, and the king of Russia dies and is replaced by a noble from the Kastrioti dynasty, Castille should be able to claim someone from their house belongs on the throne instead.
Of course, for any of this to be worthwhile then I think that having the same dynasty as another nation should give better benefits than a minor relations boost (a bonus to accepting all diplomatic actions, maybe?), but as it stands the continued opportunity to get a PU with another nations, and the obvious opinion boost the new administration would get from you having installed them, would probably make it tempting enough in certain cases on its own.
"What?! But the old king, Louis d'Valois, was my cousin!... And also, my Uncle. And, actually, he was- Whatever! This insult cannot stand! Muster the troops!"
Considering how much influence blood-lines had on politics in the earlier part of EU4's timeframe, I find it strange that a pretender can put himself on the throne of a major-power, and the relatives of the previous king won't bat an eyelid. They should be able to declare war on this upstart to restore the throne to the family to which it rightfully belongs. It probably shouldn't provide an opportunity for a personal union (things might get a bit silly) but in the above example, the king of France, or one of his relatives would have a much more legitimate claim to the throne of Provence than this Pretender. Likewise, if a neighbour with the same dynasty gets overthrown by rebels and has their government overthrown and turned into a republic, you should get the government form CB to allow reactionaries to restore the old monarchy.
As an aside, I also think that, if a monarch dies without an heir, and a noble from a different dynasty takes the throne, nations from the old dynasty should be able to contest it. So if Russia, Castille both have the Plantagenet dynasty, and the king of Russia dies and is replaced by a noble from the Kastrioti dynasty, Castille should be able to claim someone from their house belongs on the throne instead.
Of course, for any of this to be worthwhile then I think that having the same dynasty as another nation should give better benefits than a minor relations boost (a bonus to accepting all diplomatic actions, maybe?), but as it stands the continued opportunity to get a PU with another nations, and the obvious opinion boost the new administration would get from you having installed them, would probably make it tempting enough in certain cases on its own.
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