Resource Prospecting
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Focus only gives you 2 synthetic refineries and 4 oil units in one province. Whereas Sirte and Benghasi decisions give you 12 units of Oil for 25 PP and 3 CIV each.
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Actually Prospect For Oil adds these 8 missing units of Oil
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Actually Prospect For Oil adds these 8 missing units of Oil
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Should be easier to adquire oil as Italy to be frank, or at least they should have a stronger industry to be actually be able to import it. It is so dependent on oil due to it's fleet, but barely has any!
(Libyan oil was pratically in the middle of the desert by the way, and to take machinery down there it was deemed too expensive...)
But yeah the focus adds oil. Should had been able to adquire even more oil (via decisions), since Libya got one of the biggest reserves in the world AFAIK.
(Libyan oil was pratically in the middle of the desert by the way, and to take machinery down there it was deemed too expensive...)
But yeah the focus adds oil. Should had been able to adquire even more oil (via decisions), since Libya got one of the biggest reserves in the world AFAIK.
Isn't that historical, though? The RM spent a lot of time sitting around doing nothing due to a lack of fuel.
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To be fair:
Oil during 2nd world war is a complicated issue.
After some frenzied reading I found out that largest oil deposits in Europe are in fact in Albania, and they were prospected in XIX century.
However due to impurities refining Albanian oil was deem nonprofitable, and Italy moved to Libyan oil instead.
Honestly it is hard to find any free publications in English about AGIP, and it's investments in Oil production - maybe someone who speaks Italian can share more information on the subject.
Oil during 2nd world war is a complicated issue.
After some frenzied reading I found out that largest oil deposits in Europe are in fact in Albania, and they were prospected in XIX century.
However due to impurities refining Albanian oil was deem nonprofitable, and Italy moved to Libyan oil instead.
Honestly it is hard to find any free publications in English about AGIP, and it's investments in Oil production - maybe someone who speaks Italian can share more information on the subject.
If it will help, here are some oil production statistics for 1936 to 1938:
Here is the link to the document:
Here is the link to the document:
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I keep seeing documents like these arounds here, during certain time periods... but thing is, while these can be helpful, and while I thank you for posting them - you miss some crucial points.
1º Libyan oil was only discovered in 1939.
2º Your screenshot only shows production in 1936-1938
3º Italy was involved in getting fuel from multiple sources (not just crude or shale) after all the sanctions they suffered from attacking Ethiopia
4º Your charts only show production of crude petroleum and shale oil
"After Anic refineries came on steam, the Italian petrol production rose from 290.000 tons in 1937 to 520.000 in 1939. "
Azienda Nazionale Idrogenazione Combustibili - Wikipedia
Agip - Wikipedia
It is historical but:
There are a lot of alternative paths in this game . What if we weren't like Mussolini and decided to make a big investment on heavy machinery and start prospecting oil in Libya?
Also most prospecting choices the player has in this game, never actually occured during the game's time frame. Sure, the deposits for X resource were there, but rarely did the country invest on them during this period (ww2 wasn't really a period for investing in businesses, you know). Portugal for instance can invest in Oil in Angola, and oil only started coming from Angola by the 60's...
Now check Italy... They pratically get almost the same oil as Portugal but the Italians started getting oil from Libya on 1939... And could had gotten way more if the proper funds had been allocated.
As a major, I gotta confess I find it pathetic that Italy got almost no options for oil prospecting. Even Germany got it, on their own cores!!!!
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You are correct.
The screenshot depicting crude oil production only shows world production from 1936 to 1938.
Here is a link to crude oil production including 1939 and 1940 (to include oil production in Africa, which would include Libya).
1 unit of oil in HoI4 equals 996,684 barrels of real-world oil
1 unit of oil in HoI4 equals 996,684 barrels of oil (997k barrels). Here are the calculations: In HoI4 at the start of the 1936 scenario in HoI4, there are 1797.5 units of oil on the game board. One source states that in 1936, the world...
The oil production for Africa (and the rest of the world) is in the 2nd spoiler.
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To me most countrys should have a "Develop X Resource in State X by spending CIVs" as long historically the country had at least the unrefined reserve already discovered during the war. Just like the USA that can keep improving its resource base by spending PP, time and CIv´s.
There is no need to drown paradox in tons of data about minerals, etc. There is always something PDX is gonna miss because its a very interesting, but also very complex subject with sometimes very hard to find data.
This way they just need to know if the resource existed there at the time and if its enough to sustain more than a few upgrades.
So if italy want to expand lybia oil and historically there was oil that could have been developed, let them. As long italy pays in PP. CIVs and time its not really super ahistorical.
Not more than a monarchist germany or trotsky coming back from Mexico to lead the USSR.
I really think this should be key for a expansion with more focus on South & Central America and other "resource export countrys". As a key part of their role in the war was improving and expanding their resource export to the US and in Asia to Japan/England or anyone that actually controlled them.
There is no need to drown paradox in tons of data about minerals, etc. There is always something PDX is gonna miss because its a very interesting, but also very complex subject with sometimes very hard to find data.
This way they just need to know if the resource existed there at the time and if its enough to sustain more than a few upgrades.
So if italy want to expand lybia oil and historically there was oil that could have been developed, let them. As long italy pays in PP. CIVs and time its not really super ahistorical.
Not more than a monarchist germany or trotsky coming back from Mexico to lead the USSR.
I really think this should be key for a expansion with more focus on South & Central America and other "resource export countrys". As a key part of their role in the war was improving and expanding their resource export to the US and in Asia to Japan/England or anyone that actually controlled them.
Regardless of your reasons for wanting to be able to get that oil, I agree.
Prospecting should be linked to the province, not a nation. In many cases this is true, but there are exceptions where other nations can't(sometimes related to focusses unlocking the decision).
Doing it as another nation though often isn't worth the payoff as you get a negative modifier on resources as it's not a core state, so it's never really bothered me all that much. (plus I play with increased resources, which is part of the reason)
Prospecting should be linked to the province, not a nation. In many cases this is true, but there are exceptions where other nations can't(sometimes related to focusses unlocking the decision).
Doing it as another nation though often isn't worth the payoff as you get a negative modifier on resources as it's not a core state, so it's never really bothered me all that much. (plus I play with increased resources, which is part of the reason)
Because Italy hasn't been updated yet. She might get new decision to prospect resources once when her DLC is out.