Resistance 56:The Return of the Son of the Attack of the Colossal Morons from Planet Cliges Part VII

[EnvyDemon]

At this point, I think it is safe to say that Jacksonian and Falc are likely resistance, unless they are on the same spy team, which at this point is unlikely.

At this point I think the spy team is Aedan-Npstr-Happycats.

Why do I think Aedan is a spy? Aedan seems to be citing his reputation to "not sabotage missions" a lot, which might mean he is attempting to change his behavior this game in order to throw us off.

So Reject

 

[aedan777]

At this point, I think it is safe to say that Jacksonian and Falc are likely resistance, unless they are on the same spy team, which at this point is unlikely.

At this point I think the spy team is Aedan-Npstr-Happycats.

Why do I think Aedan is a spy? Aedan seems to be citing his reputation to "not sabotage missions" a lot, which might mean he is attempting to change his behavior this game in order to throw us off.

So Reject

What meaningless reasoning. Everytime I'm on a mission that goes unsabotaged I use the argument that I'm cleared for it. Nothing new this game. Moreover, there's no reason for me to change my behavior. Sure I'd get trusted for it, but only for one game. Even then the benefit wouldn't be as great as getting in a sabotage for the spy team. And if you think I'm a spy, then why Happycats? Only one of us would need to be a spy.

As for this team, I'm still not entirely trusting of Falc or Panzer, but not sure who would be better.

Voting by PM

 

[EnvyDemon]

Only one of us would need to be a spy.

The team was proposed by Falc, not either you or happycats, meaning he very well could've put both of you on the team and only one of you sabotaged.

 

[npstr]

Do I think that Tamius and happykitties are the other two spies beside Jerman?

If Tamius is Resistance he was way too little bitching about being let off proposals. Unlike me or Jerman there is no reason to have him let off teams, so he is either a potato Resistance or playing very similar to the his last game as Spy. Also he rejected the non-sabotaged M1.
For happykitties to be Resistance one (or more) of the M1 guys must be a Spy who did not sabotage it, which isn't entirely impossible, as Jacksonian was using KACEOY, 50% to get hit by it on that three-man team, I can imagine this scared a potential spy enough into supporting.

Let's also look at the others:
Jerman and myself have been discussed somewhat. Anyone who notes that my votes sucked (approving the sabotaged, rejecting the successful mission) will hopefully see it as what they are: votes of a Resistance player with no information. Jerman has been very conservative with inputs to the game. Doesn't make it easier for you to identify him.

For Jacksonian to be a Spy, Falc must be too. Which is not all that impossible, as the card that we used to get this piece of information was given out by Jacksonian himself, and I know Jacksonian got an important card from a Spy. Still most solid Resistance member out there.
aedan is behaving like a proper Resistance player wasting the NC card. Anything else would likely have the players on him, so he is kinda forced to do it even if he were a Spy. He could have been scared into supporting M1, so there's that.
Panzer has been handing out a lot of approvals - he approved two times a team that he was not part of (disregarding the NC waste approval). Could be just a clueless Resistance member.
Not too much info about Falc. He was on many proposals, which explain his approvals. I could imagine is he were a Spy he would have tried framing Jacksonian, as Jacksonian seems to be our best asset right now. I'm kinda sticking with the theory, it's either both Falc and Jacksonian spies, or both are not. If they are, how did they manage to only sabotage M2 once? Falc proposed the team, would he really put a second Spy on it, instead of picking Tamius or Panzer?

Let's look at what's coming if we reject this team: Jerman, npstr, Tamius, aedan. That's three teams that have high probabilities of getting rejected and then we have to stick with the fifth proposal by aedan.

Voting by PM on this one again

 

[aedan777]

The team was proposed by Falc, not either you or happycats, meaning he very well could've put both of you on the team and only one of you sabotaged.

But that doesn't explain why you think Happycats is a spy. Why not Tamius is your eyes?

 

[npstr]

Jerman putting some effort into rejecting this is a sign this mission could be fine.

At this point, I think it is safe to say that Jacksonian and Falc are likely resistance, unless they are on the same spy team, which at this point is unlikely.

At this point I think the spy team is Aedan-Npstr-Happycats.

Why do I think Aedan is a spy? Aedan seems to be citing his reputation to "not sabotage missions" a lot, which might mean he is attempting to change his behavior this game in order to throw us off.

Your claim, happycats AND aedan are spies is presented very lazily. happykitties is very easy to go for, but doesn't make that much sense if paired with aedan. There is at least the problem of who of them should sabotage M2 to be talked about.

 

[Falc]

APPROVE

I'll assume I made the wrong choice about cats. I am a dog person after all.

 

[PanzerCorps]

Yeah I've been approving a lot. And I'm about to do it again.

I still trust Aedan for not sabotaging M1, which I think he would've done as a spy(if he didn't, that reputation is lost on him *forever*, which will make every single future game in which he's resistance that much harder. Not worth it.).

Falc and Jacksonian I like as a chain, if something goes wrong we can always check on them later(though of course they'll try to use me as a scapegoat, hopefully we'll have cards to make that easier.) Point is, if not them then who? I don't have any better idea.

And finally there's me who of course I trust.

While I did approve two teams without me on them, both of them were second-to-last proposals where I wasn't gonna be on the last one(I asked), so it doesn't really count.


APPROVE

 

[npstr]

@tamius23, your vote seems to be missing.

 

[tamius23]

@tamius23, your vote seems to be missing.

I'm aware.

I just created that spreadsheet of mine (without the mathematics).

Just noticed we totally let of Tamius out of everything, no cards, not on a single proposal.

Yes, I'm hoping that changes soon.

Do I think that Tamius and happykitties are the other two spies beside Jerman?

If Tamius is Resistance he was way too little bitching about being let off proposals. Unlike me or Jerman there is no reason to have him let off teams, so he is either a potato Resistance or playing very similar to the his last game as Spy. Also he rejected the non-sabotaged M1.

I'll have you know that as a potato I find that offensive But I know I should be objecting more to being left off teams. I really don't want to be "that Resistance" who ends up being the deciding vote but not trusting the solely-Resistance endgame team that he isn't on.

And yeah, I rejected the successful M1 team. When I voted there had been a lot of approvals. Five I think - it obviously was too many for comfort as I said "too many approves" in my vote PM. As I'm sure you're aware five approvals who are not me means there was a spy approving, which made me lose any confidence I may have had in the team.

 

[tamius23]

Although I agree with Jackson about Jerman being an increasingly incoherent spy and I'm not completely sure why's lost faith in happycats (is it Occam's Razor), I'm not keen on him counting my being left off teams against me, when it isn't something I could do much about.

But I'll still

VOTE THROUGH PM

 

[Cliges]

Team of:

Jackson
Aedan
Falc
Panzer Commader


Approve: Jackson, Falc, Panzer, npstr
Reject: Happycats, Jerman, Tamius, Aedan

Team is Rejected 4-4. That makes 1 out of a possible 5 Rejected teams this round.

There has been 1 Successful Mission and 1 Sabotaged Mission.

Jerman is the next leader, still a 4-person team.

 

[Falc]

So npstr approved off-team and aedan rejected on-team...

Let's remember the spies need this one. If we get it we're 99% certain of winning in mission 4.

 

[EnvyDemon]

So. I'd like to see a team of Myself, Falc, Tamius and Jackson.

Thoughts?

 

[aedan777]

So. I'd like to see a team of Myself, Falc, Tamius and Jackson.

Thoughts?

You still haven't explained why you think Happycats is a spy.

 

[Canadian_95_RTS]

So, are you guys playing as the attacking colossal morons from planet Cliges, or are you fighting them?

 

[Cliges]

It's supposed to be like Plan 9 From Outer Space.

Everyone, regardless of their side, is a human trying to blow up the Sun. I think.

 

[npstr]

Lol nice try, but this is a clear reject with you on it.

Thoughts?

You're a Spy. You are putting two of the most likely Resistance players (Falc & Jackson) and additionally, since you know it has a high probability of getting rejected, your fellow Spy member Tamius in there as an alibi for him (knowing Resistance players would assume a Spy tries to avoid having more than one on a team).

 

[PanzerCorps]

Lol nice try, but this is a clear reject with you on it.



You're a Spy. You are putting two of the most likely Resistance players (Falc & Jackson) and additionally, since you know it has a high probability of getting rejected, your fellow Spy member Tamius in there as an alibi for him (knowing Resistance players would assume a Spy tries to avoid having more than one on a team).

Well, obviously if you're resistance you know Jerman is a spy, but why are you so sure about Tamius again?

 

[npstr]

@aedan777, I'd like to know why you rejected the team.