Research?

[unmerged(117007)]

How is research going to be handled? Is it going to be like HoI2 or is it going to use the horrible research system from EU3?

Also if it's the same as HoI2 I think techteams should beable to gain experience for researching things, kind of like how the Generals and Divisions get experience for fighting battles.

 

[Wulf145]

How is research going to be handled? Is it going to be like HoI2 or is it going to use the horrible research system from EU3?

Also if it's the same as HoI2 I think techteams should beable to gain experience for researching things, kind of like how the Generals and Divisions get experience for fighting battles.

Here's what I have been able to gleen from the Forum so far:

- it will be more granular than HOI2 but less granular than HOI1
- there will not be Tech Teams like in HOI2
- due to the granularity one will be able to have different equipment i.e. Germany has Tanks which are optimised for Speed (needed for Blitzkrieg) France/GB has slow Tanks with better armour (for Inf support role) this would be reflected in the Division stats
- it has been sugested that 'advisors' will be able to influence the research

 

[unmerged(117007)]

That makes no since at all, Didn't the germans have some of the slowest/strongest tanks during the war?

 

[Waffen9999]

Yes and no. The Panther for instance was probably one of the fastest, while something like the Tiger wasn't going anywhere anytime fast. But of course fi you want really slow, you could throw the Maus into it, though I think they only finished the one.... hmm maybe some King Tiger's then Otherwise the Panzer IV and the Panther were relatively fast.

 

[Rommel 459]

the germans started out with blitzkrieg tactics and had comparably light and fast tanks, then as the war progressed came out with heavier and heavier tanks (as well as losing the ability to successfully blitz whole countries),

quoting the wikipedia:

Germany's armoured Panzer force was not especially impressive at the start of the war. Plans called for two main tanks: the Panzer III medium tank and the Panzer IV infantry tank. However, by the beginning of the invasion of Poland, only a few vehicles were available. As a result, the invasions of Poland and France were carried out primarily with the inferior Panzer I and Panzer II light tanks, with some cannon-armed light tanks from Czechoslovakia. As the war proceeded, production of the heavier tanks increased.

During the Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, it was discovered that the Soviet T-34 tank outclassed the Panzer III and IV. Its sloped armour could defeat most German weapons, and its 76.2 mm gun could penetrate the armour of all German tanks. The Panzer III, which was intended to be the main medium tank, was upgraded to a longer, higher-velocity 50 mm gun. Even this was only marginally effective. Thus the Panzer IV, originally intended to be a support tank, became the de facto main medium tank re-armed with a long-barrelled, high velocity 75 mm gun. A new tank, the Panzer V Panther, was developed, incorporating lessons learned from the T-34. The Germans' traumatic experiences against the Soviet heavy tanks, with cases of single KV tanks holding up entire German tank units, spurred them to develop ever heavier designs including the Tiger and Tiger II Königstiger ("King Tiger").

As to the research, i think it is probably a good thing that they are going for a balance between HOI1 and HOI2 research styles.

 

[Hansag]

Political meddling

So if advisors could influence research, you might be able to simulate for instance, the German head of state's decision not wanting to field the worlds first 'Assault Rifle' or insisting on pushing jet fighter designs into bomber roles etc.

 

[SpanglishEmpire]

Was it not stated that now we will be able to define what sort of tank we can research e.g Heavier armour results in a slower speed.

 

[unmerged(58571)]

How about a system where each country is given specialised research capability in various fields and also gets a generic capability based on its industrial strength? This could then be assigned to different research projects like one picks food at a buffet. Obviously, the generic capability would be less efficient for each individual component, but could be assigned to any component regardless of specialisation.
Assignment of points beyond what is necessary could also be allowed to speed up a project, but in finite amounts.

This would (hopefully) give a system where both historic advantages in specialised fields can be emulated (for instance, the Allies' radar advantage or Japan's early naval doctrine advantage) while minors expanding more than they did historically would not find themselves with empty research slots.