Research Slots

[Kikaider]

I think neither of the countries that you mentioned can actually attain 50 slots. It is quite a large number and Brazil is mostly jungle wasteland with basically almost no slots. Poland probably have too few provinces but is the best "candidate" as far as attaining 50 slots. Czechoslovakia most certainly have less than 50 slots, they are not much bigger than Hungary for example. Sweden should definitely not have anywhere close to 50 slots, it was so not undeveloped at the time of WW2 and the population was around the same as in Austria.

So you agree with Canada, the Raj and China then? And with the other 4 I suggested I would be willing to believe: I meant 50 factories could only POSSIBLY be achievable after all relevant focuses and the max factory research has been completed, i.e., not really before 1945 (i.e., a decade in the game) at best and just barely. That's what "maybe" means, especially in a game where the devs outright said they are buffing the minors to make them interesting. Stop going solely by history people (because I AGREE that historical it was really a stretch), but in they're intended to be buffed and be stronger than IRL.

 

[Sun_Killer]

still you have to consider. 3 against 4 slots. minor has 75% research of major. 3 against 5 still 60% output. now the one extra for minor that is always achivable 4 againt 5 = 80% Output. Yes you will have less for most of the time, but most minor's can completly ingnore naval tech and doctrine, also tac and strat bomber won´t really be interesting. So i think a minor can stay up do date on everything related to economy and land warfare.

 

[Dogukan91]

Since we are at it, I have a question for some HOI fans here...especially the Blackice players.

Do you think less sophisticated research system is better?
It feels really dull to me as opposed to the technology system in HOI III, and even more so in comparison to blackice.

Is this simplification necessary?

 

[Sun_Killer]

in the old system you really had a problem researching anything as a minor.

 

[Sun_Killer]

and all this quad techs from the old system are now the variant system

 

[Dogukan91]

But the stuff relating to nation-building?

I can understand the military tech for creating a more "dynamic" game....

I think the best thing Blackice added to a game that limited non-major significantly was the yearly focus thing. That way, you could have a game where you could make a difference as a minor.
I guess I'll have to wait for mods and see how this game turns out...

 

[Augustus93]

still you have to consider. 3 against 4 slots. minor has 75% research of major. 3 against 5 still 60% output. now the one extra for minor that is always achivable 4 againt 5 = 80% Output. Yes you will have less for most of the time, but most minor's can completly ingnore naval tech and doctrine, also tac and strat bomber won´t really be interesting. So i think a minor can stay up do date on everything related to economy and land warfare.

Do you seriously think that Germany and especially the Soviets need to even bother with naval stuff? And Britain and US need to focus more on air power and their navy. Maybe Japan needs to focus on more on navy and their army. So the majors don't really need to research all the areas either and for the majors to have +40% output for a very long time then it will have a serious impact. Also minors also typically start behind that tree as well, the majors have quite a few techs already researched from day 1.

 

[Sun_Killer]

i think most of the time it will be 4 against 5 slots.

 

[CaosRL]

I think neither of the countries that you mentioned can actually attain 50 slots. It is quite a large number and Brazil is mostly jungle wasteland with basically almost no slots. Poland probably have too few provinces but is the best "candidate" as far as attaining 50 slots. Czechoslovakia most certainly have less than 50 slots, they are not much bigger than Hungary for example. Sweden should definitely not have anywhere close to 50 slots, it was so not undeveloped at the time of WW2 and the population was around the same as in Austria.

I think Spain would be a nice "candidate" too

 

[potski]

Yes, if it didn't tear itself apart in a bloody civil war.

 

[Warhammer]

For those who have watched the streams, is there a 'speed up' bonus if you are researching something that's really early on the tree when say your mid 1941? Because after looking at the tech trees, there is so much to research that you really can't do a 'jack of all trades' and it seems you will be forced to really neglect some areas just to keep on par on the 'important' techs.

 

[Denkt]

No there is no such bonus.

 

[Wimpola]

Like I always say, Majors means money, minors mean noney. That really doesn't make since but you get the idea, makers we rich and minors aren't as rich.

 

[paranoidsteve]

Yet another thread about the numbers of research slots? And again...not all the majors start with 4...France starts with 3 so why should Greece or Mongolia get more?

 

[potski]

To be fair, this is an old thread which was resurrected for no good reason I can see. And most people didn't know France only had three slots, and I believe they still don't know how many USA and China have.