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Hi there,

It is possible to get a Research agreement with any other race. Here how it goes. very easy to replicate.

1. Make a resource trade deal with anyone like 100 energy for 74 minerals.
2. Open trade with any other Race.
3. select Research agreement on their side. It should say -1000 in most cases.
4. Now don't change anything, don't close the window. And select another race.
5. Now it still has Research agreement selected for the other race and on your side nothing. But the -1000 is gone.

5. Just raise inkstand energy transfer or mineral until you get +1 acceptance. Voila.

In some cases you even start positive. I guess the -1000 modifier get not calculated when changing race without deselecting research agreement. And having an ongoing request for a trade.

Now you can even select the Empire you had at first selected and here also the -1000 is gone.
 
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That trade deal options stays as well as nonaggression however they have no effect. I accidently sent a trade deal with nonaggression but could not get the effect. When you see the option in trade deal you also should see the years in effect, it is not shown with this method.
 
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That trade deal options stays as well as nonaggression however they have no effect. I accidently sent a trade deal with nonaggression but could not get the effect. When you see the option in trade deal you also should see the years in effect, it is not shown with this method.

Found an additional requirement to make it work.

You need an not already accepted trade deal waiting for AI to accept.

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Ok it only looks like you are doing the research agreement!

They will accept but all you do is gift them the resources and have no actual agreement. So in the list you have the agreement initial but when the acceptance comes you only gave them stuff for nothing.


So it is a display bug that you have Research agreement already selected as an option. The moment you deselect and reselect the agreement it shows the -1000.


Now I have loads of trade agreements where i gave money for nothing =)
 
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Hi, thanks for your post! This issue is present in our database and hopefully it will get fixed soon!
 
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So are they actually agreeing to the research or not? They keep telling me "nothing" on many deals, some research, some not. Is it a gameplay or just a visual bug? Just don't want to get ripped off until it's fixed :)
 

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