Requisites to call dinasty/house members to war?

[Zosete]

I was perfectly able to do it in the tutorial run, but now the option doesn't show anywhere in my actual game.

I'm dinasty head (and therefore house head) and I can't call anyone to my wars. Not vassals nor landed rulers -although not independent- from outside my realm, nor anyone from the three different house branches. Interaction doesn't even show up in the menus.

Other dinasty head interactions (claim title, disinherit, etc) show up as normal.

I'm playing a Kannada shaivite (the Indian subcontinent) and I don't see any obstacles there. As a matter of fact, my culture is quite belligerent. I have checked cultural innovations in case the dinasty and war interactions are somehow restricted until you discover a military innovation or regional innovation, but that doesn't seem to be the case either.

I guess that vassals maybe are excluded, but I remember having lots of notifications with good ol Murchy mac murchyface on the tutorial. I don't remember my dinasty being so large outside the realm. Even if vassals are excluded, I can't still account for some dinasty members.

So. Can you call vassals?
If outside your realm, do they need to be independent or can be vassals to a liege?
Do they need to share your same faith / religion?

Thanks

 

[prismaticmarcus]

you can't call vassals in your realm. they're already providing you levies and cash.

outside your realm you should be able to. do you not get the entries in the issues widget? if they're offensive wars it costs prestige for house members, and it always costs renown for dynasty members. so do you have enough prestige/renown?

and faith shouldn't matter unless it's a religious war.

 

[Zosete]

you can't call vassals in your realm. they're already providing you levies and cash.

outside your realm you should be able to. do you not get the entries in the issues widget? if they're offensive wars it costs prestige for house members, and it always costs renown for dynasty members. so do you have enough prestige/renown?

and faith shouldn't matter unless it's a religious war.

Thanks for the reply. I have enough prestige and reknown, but the option doesn't even show as greyed out.
I have very few dinasty members outside my realm and they're counts, mostly, so that's why I thought that maybe they need to be independent.

Haven't had a single notification for call dinasty members to war yet. I use a mod that adds new alerts (expiring hooks, etc) on top of the notifications menu but even if it messed with it, it shouldn't interfere with manual right click interactions. I'll double check in any case.

 

[prismaticmarcus]

Thanks for the reply. I have enough prestige and reknown, but the option doesn't even show as greyed out.
I have very few dinasty members outside my realm and they're counts, mostly, so that's why I thought that maybe they need to be independent.

Haven't had a single notification for call dinasty members to war yet. I use a mod that adds new alerts (expiring hooks, etc) on top of the notifications menu but even if it messed with it, it shouldn't interfere with manual right click interactions. I'll double check in any case.

i've never used the interactions for this. i always use the widget. i bet it's the mod.

maybe uninstall the mod and verify your files just as a double check

 

[Zosete]

I disabled the mod, granted independence to a dinasty vassal and declared a war on some random guy. No luck.

Then I enabled the mod again, started a new game as the preset King of Galicia (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) and there you go: house and dinasty notifications plus the diplomacy interaction option working perfectly and showing up after a war is declared.

So I guess there's some mix of elements I need to find out. Religion? Not being a de jure vassal even if it is independent? Diplomatic distance? (that shouldn't be an issue in my original game) Adulthood? Not being at war? Minimum level of splendor? Pacifism tenet on their side? It's true that my dinasty is small and most members fall under my wing as vassals, but I can't find the key.

 

[CK3bugginME]

I can't call allies or members it just shows their character screen when I click them. I'm on ps5

 

[prismaticmarcus]

but i see 'youi can call house members.' what does that look like.

you can't call someone into a war against someone if they're already allied to them in another war. could that be it?