- Dec 12, 2007
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Why isn't gotland hanseatic from start? Visby is a classic hansa town if there ever was one.
I actually think we ought to be dumping hanseatic culture. I think it's a bit of a nonesense. We just didn't know how to give the hansa right culture without it being abusive (Greman, Scandinavian, English and Italian might have been just a little too much ...)
From a cultural point of view it's complete nonsense but from a gameplay view it's a great culture if done right. I don't know, I thought it was horrible when I fired up the game the first time but it has grown on me.
All the towns in the Baltic (and beyond) were "Hansaetic". I think Hansa should be given German and Baltic and/or Scandinavian.
Ehm what? Aside from the rest of german society?It is meant to represent this cosmopolitan, merchant-culture, frecity attitude, which sets it aside from the rest of German society.
Ehm what? Aside from the rest of german society?
Free cities could be found in the whole empire, especially in the southwestern region and Thuringia. The list is so long (85 free cities) and the few coastal free cities were nothing special except for their harbours. This was nothing special.
free cities in 1648
The cosmopolitan-merchant-attitude could be found in every bigger city or how would you describe the surroundings in which the trade empires of the Fugger (Augsburg), the von Simmelsdorf (Nürnberg), the Welser (Nürnberg), the Schürer (Wernesgrün/Saxony), the Oelhafen (Leipzig/Saxony) the Vöhlin (Memmingen) or of the Höchstetter (Augsburg) families grew? Farming villages? Isolationistic hillbillys? The most important and richest merchant families did not came from the northsea- or the eastsea(baltic)coast. Was it a coincidence that e.g. Leipzig (my hometown) was a center of the east-west-trade (especially for fur) and established as first city in Europe a regular trade fair? Leipzig was never a free city. Leipzig had no harbour (Hitler started the construction of one but then something crossed his plans...). Had the merchants of Leipzig no cosmopolitan-merchant-attitude? What about the rich traders from Nürnberg or Augsburg? How would you define a cosmopolitan-merchant-attitude?
The hanseatic cities as places of an unique trader-attitude and an unique merchant-spirit? Laughable. If you made this for gameplay reasons - okay, thats the weakest of all arguments but it is still an acceptable one. But please don't try to justify this with real history.
I don't like the idea of giving the Hansa German for precisely the reasons DrBob pointed out. They are supposed to have low manpower, and aren't supposed to expand much in Europe. They are a trading and then colonial power. In wars, their defense is their fleet, and the fact that their holdings are far-flung, preventing anyone without a navy from successfully taking them on.
Giving the Hansa German culture is simply an invitation for them to go on a land conquest adventure in Germany. While they are weaker than Bavaria or the Order, they can still easily take on the 1 or 2 province minors that make up a significant portion of Germany. This places them in the unique role of being a colonizing nation with a large right-culture right-religion territory in which to expand.
Eire has only 3 (5 if you include Wales and Galicia) provinces with the right culture that they do not own at start, and 3 of them are likely to be wrong religion, and held by a strong opponent.
Sicily (once Italian is removed) has 1 (+2 in Africa through events).
Brittany has to make a choice between two secondary cultures, and faces strong opponents in taking either.
Al-Andalus has to deal with the crusade, and there is only 1 Andalusi province they don't own at start. They have Arabic, but that is far from their usual area of expansion and on a different continent besides. (Personally, I don't think Al-Andalus should have Arabic anyways.)
Genoa has to face Milan and the Pope if it wants to expand in Italy.
Giving Hansa German culture would be giving them too much power that they can easily consolidate in the early game. In a way, they become like Russia in AGCEEP, if Russia was in the Latin tech group from 1419 and Siberia was filled with BTV 8 Sugar provinces.