Requesting Independence

[Gregsplays]

How do you declare independence from an overlord state? in my current game, i've been playing a peacful, fairly powerful empire, low and behold the game spawns a heck tonne of slaving despots, hegemonic imperialists (about 12 of them in this game so far), and Xenophobic isolationists right next to me, and this empire to my south declared war on me to subjugate me as a protectorate, there is a way for me to request independence in the game, but i'm curious as to what i have to do to get over the base -50 so they'll actually say yes, do i just need to get more powerful? or do i need to do more diplomacy with them?

 

[Naelar]

I've never been subjugated, but there are wars for independence frequently, typically named Liberation wars.

 

[Gregsplays]

I've never been subjugated, but there are wars for independence frequently, typically named Liberation wars.

yeah i know what you mean, i just don't want to war with these guys, they're far more powerful than me.

 

[Naelar]

yeah i know what you mean, i just don't want to war with these guys, they're far more powerful than me.

Gather your strength and count the enemies of the empire. Might be good idea to spark a huge war.

 

[Gregsplays]

Gather your strength and count the enemies of the empire. Might be good idea to spark a huge war.

i think that's a good idea, i've made some huge scientific leaps, i'm working on a colonization effort too to buff the amount of income throughout my Republic too.

 

[Naelar]

i think that's a good idea, i've made some huge scientific leaps, i'm working on a colonization effort too to buff the amount of income throughout my Republic too.

When confronting superior enemies, I highly advise defensive fleets that use bombardment AI while having strike craft do a bunch of the dirty work. If you have torpedos or particle lances, use those to your ranged advantage and try to avoid getting hit outright.

Edit: Corrected wording.

 

[Naelar]

Here is some of my ship designs. Note that the ship art is all that's different, you can achieve the exact same build in these pictures.

 

[Gregsplays]

Here is some of my ship designs. Note that the ship art is all that's different, you can achieve the exact same build in these pictures.

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that helps actually, i think i'll look into their fleets and design a new batch of ships designed to counter their ships, thanks a lot

 

[Gregsplays]

Here is some of my ship designs. Note that the ship art is all that's different, you can achieve the exact same build in these pictures.

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ps. i love the models you use

 

[RossMorris]

Has anyone ever been conquered and manage to break free?

 

[Gregsplays]

Has anyone ever been conquered and manage to break free?

i've actually broken free, the empire's my overlord were at war with demanded me released as an independent empire

 

[fir0002]

Once. Got made a vassal after my fleet was decimated when the scourge appeared in my core systems. Didn't have the power to resist as a result. Took me 20ish years to build my fleet back up to strength so I could declare my independence again, even then it was a gamble

 

[RossMorris]

i've actually broken free, the empire's my overlord were at war with demanded me released as an independent empire

Did you do anything to help your liberators? Did you befriend them for that purpose?

 

[RossMorris]

Once. Got made a vassal after my fleet was decimated when the scourge appeared in my core systems. Didn't have the power to resist as a result. Took me 20ish years to build my fleet back up to strength so I could declare my independence again, even then it was a gamble

Who did yield to for vassalization, the scourge?

 

[fir0002]

Who did yield to for vassalization, the scourge?

Another Empire after the scourge was beaten. They took advantage of my vastly weakened navy, as I only had 4-5 battleships and maybe 2 cruisers from the fighting the scourge. Scourge basically wiped out all my high tier construction facilities and my mineral reserves were non-existent so I had no chance of rebuilding quickly

 

[Gregsplays]

Did you do anything to help your liberators? Did you befriend them for that purpose?

i actually didn't, and quickly after that, they declared war on me, trying to "liberate" a lot of my planets (fanatic xenophobes for you)

 

[krios41]

How do you declare independence from an overlord state? in my current game, i've been playing a peacful, fairly powerful empire, low and behold the game spawns a heck tonne of slaving despots, hegemonic imperialists (about 12 of them in this game so far), and Xenophobic isolationists right next to me, and this empire to my south declared war on me to subjugate me as a protectorate, there is a way for me to request independence in the game, but i'm curious as to what i have to do to get over the base -50 so they'll actually say yes, do i just need to get more powerful? or do i need to do more diplomacy with them?

Kinda having the same question actually.
I made myself willingly a vassal of a super large bordering empire (thinking i could stil colonize, needles to say i was very, very salty about teh fact i can't) and i followed up with anohter idiotic mistake of joining a war against my overlord where the victory conditions are just 'humiliate' (for some reason i tought i could request a war demand too, gues i was just tired).
Luckily i can stil infiltrate the 'lesser' civs and get new planets (and thus catch up in fleet cap) that way but it's not a nice thing to do.
Is a second war realy my only option?

 

[fir0002]

It was the only option I had, so unless it's changed in the next patch you're going to have to declare war to get your independence back

 

[krios41]

It was the only option I had, so unless it's changed in the next patch you're going to have to declare war to get your independence back

Well Fluff

 

[Vincenzo_667]

Back in 1.1 I played a game of fanatic xenophobia where I purged everything in a tiny galaxy, funnily enough I've actually been a protectorate of a neighboring advanced start empire (with exact opposite ethos - fanatic xenophile) for quite a bit. Since there was no way I could've defeated him in early-to-mid game due to him being far superior in tech I demanded protectorate status. Not sure how much it has been changed since then (I assume a lot), but back then it was incredibly OP, since anyone who would've declared war on me would have to fight the overlord empire as well, while I was free to expand (and purge) as I wished. So while the overlord was busy fanaticaly colonizing every planet he could find in his half of the galaxy I was busy fanaticaly purging everything in my half. Eventually there was nothing left but me, my overlord and some of his other protectorates. By that time I catched up in tech, built a superior fleet and declared war for independence. Since you could've abused truce timers by declaring wars on vassals back then I was basically at non-stop war with him ever since.
Never been someone's non-protectorate vassal though. I wonder if the AI will try to integrate a vassalized player empire.