just unite southern germany, baden, wurtenburg, palinate, alsace, wurzburg, switzerland, the skinny western arm of austria. become holy roman emperor is what i would do and have done. in all my bavarian games, 3, i've just conqued southern germany, or sometimes just bavarian culture provs and vassalized alot of small german states and became emperor. i've NEVER attempted unified germany, go for if you want. if you're serious about this, then just do what you want to do. i want to see what somebody elses grand goal for bavaria would be so it's up to you to make the decisions about what you want to do. thanks for the answer. anyone else whant to write about the most nationalistic german people in an aar?