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What is the optimal level to maintain Republican Tradition at?

Where you feel safe. Republican Tradition is very risk-reward due to the drastic ramp-up in stability costs.

You want it above 50 for sure. How much above 50? That depends on where you feel safe with RT. I perfer to stay between 75~90; so I don't overcap on points; but also so a chain of bad events dosen't leave me suddenly needing to pay almost 200 ADM.
 

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There's no "optmimum", since it's changing all the time... xD
If you want to stay a republic, you want it to be above 60 though, otherwise those despotic events may occur.
If you are going to change gov, you can't be too low afaik.
 

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There's no "optmimum", since it's changing all the time... xD
If you want to stay a republic, you want it to be above 60 though, otherwise those despotic events may occur.
If you are going to change gov, you can't be too low afaik.

Well; to be fair; if one was strictly looking at what's optimal; you'd want to fall into Despotism before the Age of Absolutism at the very latest.

Between Absolutism and Disinheriting; Republics are pretty bad now, especially when you throw in the load of horrible events they get.
 

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I perfer to stay between 75~90
I was maintaining it in that range, but then it occurred to me that I could probably go even lower. The 75 limit most likely being a force of habit.

If you want to stay a republic, you want it to be above 60 though
For a Merchant Republic, I'm guessing it's much more important?
 

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I tend to have mine between 50-60, especially when rushing ideas and re-electing leaders.

When there's an option to increase Mercantilism for some RT, I'll usually strengthen government before taking the Merc, so that my RT doesn't fall below 50.

I get my stab from +3 advisors. And if I take Plutocratic early, I usually won't have much issues with Nat Unrest, from negative stab
 

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If you play as Milan you can drop it as low as 40 without fear due to their events which allow you to trade some STAB for a massive booster in RT. This can be used to re-elect the same person and grab that mana.

As for the other republics, I have nothing to add to what those above me already said.
 

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when you got very high stabilty you can reduce it min to 50 . keep your 6/6/6 young ruler at rule
while doing that still pick events that incrasing tradition so he will be there longer.
when you get hit by stab events let your tradition rise again
 

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I don't like to let it drop as far as other posters. I generally re-elect at will, and use strengthen government whenever I drop below 90 tradition.
 

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Any level above 40 works in my opinion. The rise of a despot event (which turns you into a monarchy) can only fire if you go under 40 tradition.

When you've under 80 tradition, there are a few not so great events that cost monarch points, as well as (if your stability is less than 3) the occasional expand the bodyguard event that allows to get a flat 10 tradition for free.

Also worth noting is that there are two particularly good republic events that will trigger only when you've under 50 tradition:


- Republican traditions debated, which allows you to trade a stab hit for 20 tradition
- Freetraders winning debates, which allows you to trade 3 mercantilism for 20 tradition

In practice the gain in tradition from events and from not re-electing monarchs that start too old or with a crap trait are plenty enough. If you do that you can re-elect all other monarchs and seldom need to worry about spending military points to strengthen government.
 

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I personally usually favored 60 or 65 as my cutoff point in my old runs, not knowing what the threshold for getting seriously bad events was. Now that I know, I'd be inclined to go with Kergan's approach and drift closer to 40 from now on.
 

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Unless I'm trying to break into monarchy for Age of Absolutism I keep it at around 40 and keep it high enough using Republic is Sacred + Strengthen Gov to chain reelect.

I'm always very sad when Age of Abso rolls around as a republic because honestly monarchies are very boring to me and I much prefer republic gameplay but absolutism creates a false choice there soooooo whatcha gonna do?
 

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Unless I'm trying to break into monarchy for Age of Absolutism I keep it at around 40 and keep it high enough using Republic is Sacred + Strengthen Gov to chain reelect.

I'm always very sad when Age of Abso rolls around as a republic because honestly monarchies are very boring to me and I much prefer republic gameplay but absolutism creates a false choice there soooooo whatcha gonna do?

To play a late game Republic, get Plutocratic (or Aristocratic, if you started as a Monarchy) and Influence early. Tank your tradition to switch to Monarchy as you work on getting Court and Country. Upon completing the latter with the +20 bonus (which you can't get as a Republic), take the decision to switch back to Republic. Your absolutism cap will then be -10 instead of -30. It's not perfect, but it's high enough that you can reasonably keep playing Republic until the end of the game.

Alternatively, going Revolutionary works too.
 

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To play a late game Republic, get Plutocratic (or Aristocratic, if you started as a Monarchy) and Influence early. Tank your tradition to switch to Monarchy as you work on getting Court and Country. Upon completing the latter with the +20 bonus (which you can't get as a Republic), take the decision to switch back to Republic. Your absolutism cap will then be -10 instead of -30. It's not perfect, but it's high enough that you can reasonably keep playing Republic until the end of the game.

Alternatively, going Revolutionary works too.

Yeah it's a silly workaround but going monarchy for a while before switching back to rev. republic is the way to go imo.
 

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To play a late game Republic, get Plutocratic (or Aristocratic, if you started as a Monarchy) and Influence early. Tank your tradition to switch to Monarchy as you work on getting Court and Country. Upon completing the latter with the +20 bonus (which you can't get as a Republic), take the decision to switch back to Republic. Your absolutism cap will then be -10 instead of -30. It's not perfect, but it's high enough that you can reasonably keep playing Republic until the end of the game.

Alternatively, going Revolutionary works too.

Thanks, never even thought of that. Having to take Aristo isn't usually ideal, but honestly I despise monarchies so much that I might just do that anyways.

Still miss the days of being able to stay Republic/switch to it and only feel kinda bad you were missing out on Absolute Monarchy.
 

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To play a late game Republic, get Plutocratic (or Aristocratic, if you started as a Monarchy) and Influence early. Tank your tradition to switch to Monarchy as you work on getting Court and Country. Upon completing the latter with the +20 bonus (which you can't get as a Republic), take the decision to switch back to Republic. Your absolutism cap will then be -10 instead of -30. It's not perfect, but it's high enough that you can reasonably keep playing Republic until the end of the game.

Alternatively, going Revolutionary works too.

Ideally you'd be forming some nation that switches the government automatically.