A flat cost increase to coring in admin points is boring. Now that rebels actually have interesting mechanics it would be far better if countries with coring cost ideas or traditions gave more nationalism both longer lasting and more intense. This would make holding those regions a real struggle as opposed to just coring them being a pain.
Replace coring cost increase with nationalism increase
- Thread starter sarudak
- Start date
-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Sounds like a good idea. Of course, this would motivate people to vassal-annex such countries. Perhaps permanent nationalism? +5 unrest or something
Perma-nationalism for countries like Serbia and Wallachia sounds like a very appropriate thing.
I like this idea a lot more than what we have currently.
Players already vassal-annex such countries, because diplo tech is significantly less useful than admin tech is.
I like the idea. There are quirks to work out, but overall it is far less aggravating to have resistance to foreign occupiers be dealt with through unrest rather than through coring costs.
Too late to put it in this version of the game. Autonomy does mean that, to an extent, conquered and cored provinces aren´t really "cored".
One thing that could work for EU4 is any conquered province of different religion and culture to start with less autonomy after conquest... than if it has accepted culture and same religion. So Ottomans conquering Serbia would mean 75% autonomy after conquest, while a turkish sunni province, 25%. Why? Because naturally the administration of said serbian province would be a pain to improve.
Or make autonomy decrease much slower in those.
Perhaps if say the idea gave +10 nationalism, if you diplo annexed them you would start with + 10 nationalism revolt risk instead of 0
I meant the OP's suggestion could be completely nullified by diplo-annexing as opposed to the current situation where there is a trade off. My suggestion of perma-nationalism, I think, more accurately models the idea of some countries being hard to hold on to. Culture conversion should also be off limits.
Which is precisely what we do with increased coring cost anyway. I like this idea.
It doesn't negate it sure but no one wants to spend a couple hundred ADM points to core a province.
Increased coring cost is in the game to discourage the AI from annexing every country they see. Increased nationalism wouldn't do the same because it's not factored in the AI's expansion behaviour, so countries like Wallachia would be eaten by the Ottomans within the first few years - and the Ottomans would probably collapse even faster than they do currently because they can't handle the rebels.
I'd like to see it as a modifier to # of troops spawned from rebellion / better generals. Things like local nobility were based around local nobles who could tip balance in favor of revolt.
Anything to get rid of increased coring costs.
On of the least fun mechanics in the game imo.
On of the least fun mechanics in the game imo.
Then why not simply make Autonomy only possible to be reduced by force at a certain point, for some countries?
I think it´s stupid that autonomy ALWAYS decays toward zero. As I mentioned before, if it´s different culture and religion, it sohuld reach only, say, 50% autonomy and all further decreases would require either culture conversion or forced reduction+ the unrest.
I think it´s stupid that autonomy ALWAYS decays toward zero. As I mentioned before, if it´s different culture and religion, it sohuld reach only, say, 50% autonomy and all further decreases would require either culture conversion or forced reduction+ the unrest.
Autonomy only affects the usefulness of the province.
I'd much rather see a mechanic that
a) makes it more difficult to conquer these countries in question
increased province cost in peace deals for example, or longer truces or some such
b) result in more rebellions in the conquered provinces
longer/higher nationalism, increase revolt sizes
I'd much rather see a mechanic that
a) makes it more difficult to conquer these countries in question
increased province cost in peace deals for example, or longer truces or some such
b) result in more rebellions in the conquered provinces
longer/higher nationalism, increase revolt sizes
That´s silly determinism. "hurr durr Transylvania stronk". The reason they resisted had nothing to do with "culture", but being a different culture AND different religion.
If US conquered Canada would canadians be as pissed as if it was Saudi Arabia?
If US conquered Canada would canadians be as pissed as if it was Saudi Arabia?