[OOC: now what I said is perfect 
lol /]
I think we should advance allready to section B
lol /]I think we should advance allready to section B
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A tiny little remark from my side on military aquisitions you're proposing. Those who read "The Soldier" know that I have a little bit different idea of good military equipment than stated over here.
First of all - throwing the invaders back in the sea would be rather hard, or at least harder than just not letting them land, by using modern naval and air forces. It is great to be an island, at least from a defensive point of view. Great Britain was able to hold Germans out for the whole World War 2, using advantage in this two factors, while losing pathetically in ground warfare.
I'm not saying that we do not need any ground forces - that would be madness, but their defensive role would be, so to say, rather limited.
Most important part of our ground forces should be air defence and coast defence. The rest is not that important.
Depends on who would we fight against. Should it be USA, than it is not even one full day.
Good Idea.
So?.. MiG-21 is most widely used airplane in the world, would you propose us to buy this piece of crap, though? F-16 is fighter-bomber of the past, we need to move on to the future. F/A-18 is good, but extremely expensive, so are EF-2000 and Raphaele.
While anyway, we're banned from trade with US and EU, so what do we do?
*keeps silence for a several seconds, than hits the table with his fist*
We say "screw tham" and move on to another market!!!
While I suggest...
120/150 Su-30 (depends on a carriers)
0/30 Su-33 (if we need a carrier after all)
2 A-50 AW&C
2 or 3 air tankers of some kind (there are tonns of them over the world and all of them are basically similar).
Thanks for your attention.
*sits down*
First of all - throwing the invaders back in the sea would be rather hard, or at least harder than just not letting them land, by using modern naval and air forces. It is great to be an island, at least from a defensive point of view. Great Britain was able to hold Germans out for the whole World War 2, using advantage in this two factors, while losing pathetically in ground warfare.
I'm not saying that we do not need any ground forces - that would be madness, but their defensive role would be, so to say, rather limited.
Most important part of our ground forces should be air defence and coast defence. The rest is not that important.
Depends on who would we fight against. Should it be USA, than it is not even one full day.
Good Idea.
So?.. MiG-21 is most widely used airplane in the world, would you propose us to buy this piece of crap, though? F-16 is fighter-bomber of the past, we need to move on to the future. F/A-18 is good, but extremely expensive, so are EF-2000 and Raphaele.
While anyway, we're banned from trade with US and EU, so what do we do?
*keeps silence for a several seconds, than hits the table with his fist*
We say "screw tham" and move on to another market!!!
While I suggest...
120/150 Su-30 (depends on a carriers)
0/30 Su-33 (if we need a carrier after all)
2 A-50 AW&C
2 or 3 air tankers of some kind (there are tonns of them over the world and all of them are basically similar).
Thanks for your attention.
*sits down*
I too think we should by If necessary russian weapons... BUT that would make us look even worse in the eyes of the USA... We should think about that in the future.. and not necessarlly put that in the platform
OR maybe we could add:
If necessary the Eutopia armed forces will not esitate in buing weaponship from other countries that our tradional allies ( please read USA and EU )
OR maybe we could add:
If necessary the Eutopia armed forces will not esitate in buing weaponship from other countries that our tradional allies ( please read USA and EU )
Right. Nicely worded .
I'd be for Russian counterparts even if American ones would be avaliable for one simple reason - equal quality, drastically unequal price...
(f.e. compare Su-30 to F/A-18...)
.I'd be for Russian counterparts even if American ones would be avaliable for one simple reason - equal quality, drastically unequal price...
(f.e. compare Su-30 to F/A-18...)
Delegates,
discussion of Section A is now complete. Please move on to discuss issues related to Section B.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
discussion of Section A is now complete. Please move on to discuss issues related to Section B.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
right-o
Section B (Days 6, 7)
Crime and punishment: The ESRP is on the record as being against capital punishment. I think we agree on this. Regarding drugs. My Party has not adopted a policy on this as such. My personal opinion, though, is I support decriminalizastion but NOT legalization which are two separate things. Drugs of any sort are harmful both to the individual and to society. It is not the role of the government to encourage drug abuse which the policy of legalization would do.
Terrorism: Who here supports terrorism? Obviously no one. We must do all we can to eliminate local terrorist acts. But we should also not immediately jump on a bandwagon. Of course the ESRP is against harbouring terrorists, but we should at least first give them benefit of the doubt. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Immigration and citizenship: Did we not pass a law on this recently. I think it was one of Vasco's. Regarding refugees. Similar to what I said on terrorism. Refugees demand to be heard. But we need to ask what constitutes a refugee? I think we need to look at economic refugees as well as political.
Federalism: We favour the introduction of a truly federal system with self-government for all the provinces and territories in policy areas which are primarily local or regional in nature. Amen. We should add to this perhaps the notion of giving WET provincial status as well.
Minority rights:
Same sex rights:
Abortion:
Nothing to add here, really to what is on your agenda.
Health care: We are strongly opposed to two-tier health care; we believe that health care can be privatized under strict regulation, but health insurance must remain in the hands of a single state-regulated provider to ensure social equality. Not sure why we even need privatization. I do not believe in for-profit medicine, which is what privatization intimates. Eutopia's health care system is something to be envied. I think it should not be "doctored" with...ha ha.
Welfare:
Environment: We believe all Eutopians have the right to work and in fact all healthy Eutopians should work in order to contribute to our society according to their means. However we believe that due to the market system certain workers at times are deemed redundant at the expense of corportations' profits. To this end, a worker is entitled to continue to support himself and that of his family in a private and non-demeaning way when such circumstances leave him out of work The Employer and the Employee alike are responsible for putting away funds for a "rainy day" through a government-run Insurance program. The government also funds a compensation and welfare program.
Josephus I
Section B (Days 6, 7)
Crime and punishment: The ESRP is on the record as being against capital punishment. I think we agree on this. Regarding drugs. My Party has not adopted a policy on this as such. My personal opinion, though, is I support decriminalizastion but NOT legalization which are two separate things. Drugs of any sort are harmful both to the individual and to society. It is not the role of the government to encourage drug abuse which the policy of legalization would do.
Terrorism: Who here supports terrorism? Obviously no one. We must do all we can to eliminate local terrorist acts. But we should also not immediately jump on a bandwagon. Of course the ESRP is against harbouring terrorists, but we should at least first give them benefit of the doubt. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Immigration and citizenship: Did we not pass a law on this recently. I think it was one of Vasco's. Regarding refugees. Similar to what I said on terrorism. Refugees demand to be heard. But we need to ask what constitutes a refugee? I think we need to look at economic refugees as well as political.
Federalism: We favour the introduction of a truly federal system with self-government for all the provinces and territories in policy areas which are primarily local or regional in nature. Amen. We should add to this perhaps the notion of giving WET provincial status as well.
Minority rights:
Same sex rights:
Abortion:
Nothing to add here, really to what is on your agenda.
Health care: We are strongly opposed to two-tier health care; we believe that health care can be privatized under strict regulation, but health insurance must remain in the hands of a single state-regulated provider to ensure social equality. Not sure why we even need privatization. I do not believe in for-profit medicine, which is what privatization intimates. Eutopia's health care system is something to be envied. I think it should not be "doctored" with...ha ha.
Welfare:
Environment: We believe all Eutopians have the right to work and in fact all healthy Eutopians should work in order to contribute to our society according to their means. However we believe that due to the market system certain workers at times are deemed redundant at the expense of corportations' profits. To this end, a worker is entitled to continue to support himself and that of his family in a private and non-demeaning way when such circumstances leave him out of work The Employer and the Employee alike are responsible for putting away funds for a "rainy day" through a government-run Insurance program. The government also funds a compensation and welfare program.
Josephus I
I have a question for the president of the convention:
Are speeches here secret or can they be quoted publicly and in press?..
Are speeches here secret or can they be quoted publicly and in press?..
everything in the convection is opean.. you and everyone can quote what is said here
Nope, and agreed.
"All the provinces and territories" includes the WET.
My preferred strategy to make some short term progress in federalization would be to pass a constitutional amendment that assigns all provinces and territories to the category "Autonomous Provinces"; that would give them self-government in language, culture and education. In the long term, we could aim at a more complete overhaul of national and provincial powers.Well, the formulation suggests that the delivery of care can be privatized but need not.
I assume this was meant for welfare, not the environment?
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
What I think
Section B (Days 6, 7)
Crime and punishment: Theobjective of the Criminal sistem should be of rehabilitation and not only of punishement, this do mean we do not belive in the death penalty do be used, only in the exeption in times of crisis where the crimanal sistem don't work ( read, war times ) We also support the decriminalization and legalization of soft drugs such as marihuana, but oppose the decriminalization of hard drugs. The goal of a national drug policy should be to punish those who earn a livelihood from selling hard drugs, not to punish those who use them. We would take one step foward, we do belive that the state should have the monopoly of the canabis market, this way controlling to who the canabis is seld the quality and price of this drug. And of cource the profit that this would give to the state. If this work we shall in the future think about privatization of this sector IF necessary
Terrorism: Terrorism is the Worst aspect of the human beeing, We, the RD, are a monument that terrorism NEVER win* Eutopia must have a good counter-terrorism force to protect all citiziens from harm.
Immigration and citizenship: We call for the introduction of two separate pieces of legislation governing refugees and immigration, respectively. Any bona fide refugee must be granted unconditional asylum; they should be allowed to participate in the labour market. Prospective immigrants (permanent residents) should be able to communicate in at least one of the three major languages at the time of entry. Applicants for citizenship must be permanent residents, must have resided in Eutopia for at least three years out of the four years preceding their application and must have basic communication skills in at least two of the three major languages. The state should provide programmes which allow permanent residents to integrate into Eutopian society and acquire the skills necessary to apply for citizenship if they so desire.
Federalism: We favour the introduction of a truly federal system with self-government for all the provinces and territories in policy areas which are primarily local or regional in nature. The first step to this shall be to take control of the WET from the MILE to the hands of a governor
Minority rights: We call for the constitutional entrenchment of a basic rights catalogue and protection of historically disadvantaged groups, and for constitutional recognition of Eutopia’s multicultural heritage.
Same sex rights: We strongly support equal rights and status for same sex couples in their relation to the state. This includes the right to a civil union and the right to adoption.
Abortion: We support the right of mothers to choose, though abortion should generally not be available beyond the first three months. Parents should be provided with counselling to help them make an informed decision. In cases where the continuation of a pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's health, abortion should be available throughout the pregnancy.
Health care: We are strongly opposed to two-tier health care; we believe that health care can be privatized under strict regulation, but health insurance must remain in the hands of a single state-regulated provider to ensure social equality.
Welfare: All individuals and groups are shaped by society and shape society in turn. Our fates are bound together; hence we have an obligation to society. In particular, those who benefit from the current organization of society have an obligation to protect the weaker members of society, and to prevent poverty, destitution, or the marginalization of groups or individuals. The workforce and consumers must be protected through strict enforcement of economic regulations, a fair distribution of economic costs and the cost of government, and state control over sensitive sectors of the economy. The effectiveness of labour in representing and protecting the interests of employees must be safeguarded. At the same time, society has an obligation to protect the unemployed and those members of society who are not able to fully and equally participate in the labour market.
Environment: The environment is the foundation of our society, economy and way of life; its protection must be one of our primary goals, both for its intrinsic and instrumental value. Eutopia must give priority to sustainable development, the development of environmentally friendly technologies and the replacement of environmentally detrimental ones.
Party conventions: One month after each national election, there will be a party convention to (a) elect the party leaders, (b) set priorities for the next three months, and (c) review party policies.
Party leadership: The party will be led by a Spokesperson and Deputy Spokesperson. Both posts will be filled in regular party elections occuring at a party convention one month after a national election. The person who receives the most votes in a party election will become Spokesperson; the person with the second-most votes will become Deputy Spokesperson. It is the Spokesperson's responsibility to officially represent the party and to organize party debate; s/he is aided in these taks by the Deputy. If the Spokesperson is temporarily unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will fulfill them. If the Spokesperson is permanently unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will become the new Spokesperson; party members will then elect a new Deputy Spokesperson.
Section B (Days 6, 7)
Crime and punishment: Theobjective of the Criminal sistem should be of rehabilitation and not only of punishement, this do mean we do not belive in the death penalty do be used, only in the exeption in times of crisis where the crimanal sistem don't work ( read, war times ) We also support the decriminalization and legalization of soft drugs such as marihuana, but oppose the decriminalization of hard drugs. The goal of a national drug policy should be to punish those who earn a livelihood from selling hard drugs, not to punish those who use them. We would take one step foward, we do belive that the state should have the monopoly of the canabis market, this way controlling to who the canabis is seld the quality and price of this drug. And of cource the profit that this would give to the state. If this work we shall in the future think about privatization of this sector IF necessary
Terrorism: Terrorism is the Worst aspect of the human beeing, We, the RD, are a monument that terrorism NEVER win* Eutopia must have a good counter-terrorism force to protect all citiziens from harm.
Immigration and citizenship: We call for the introduction of two separate pieces of legislation governing refugees and immigration, respectively. Any bona fide refugee must be granted unconditional asylum; they should be allowed to participate in the labour market. Prospective immigrants (permanent residents) should be able to communicate in at least one of the three major languages at the time of entry. Applicants for citizenship must be permanent residents, must have resided in Eutopia for at least three years out of the four years preceding their application and must have basic communication skills in at least two of the three major languages. The state should provide programmes which allow permanent residents to integrate into Eutopian society and acquire the skills necessary to apply for citizenship if they so desire.
Federalism: We favour the introduction of a truly federal system with self-government for all the provinces and territories in policy areas which are primarily local or regional in nature. The first step to this shall be to take control of the WET from the MILE to the hands of a governor
Minority rights: We call for the constitutional entrenchment of a basic rights catalogue and protection of historically disadvantaged groups, and for constitutional recognition of Eutopia’s multicultural heritage.
Same sex rights: We strongly support equal rights and status for same sex couples in their relation to the state. This includes the right to a civil union and the right to adoption.
Abortion: We support the right of mothers to choose, though abortion should generally not be available beyond the first three months. Parents should be provided with counselling to help them make an informed decision. In cases where the continuation of a pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's health, abortion should be available throughout the pregnancy.
Health care: We are strongly opposed to two-tier health care; we believe that health care can be privatized under strict regulation, but health insurance must remain in the hands of a single state-regulated provider to ensure social equality.
Welfare: All individuals and groups are shaped by society and shape society in turn. Our fates are bound together; hence we have an obligation to society. In particular, those who benefit from the current organization of society have an obligation to protect the weaker members of society, and to prevent poverty, destitution, or the marginalization of groups or individuals. The workforce and consumers must be protected through strict enforcement of economic regulations, a fair distribution of economic costs and the cost of government, and state control over sensitive sectors of the economy. The effectiveness of labour in representing and protecting the interests of employees must be safeguarded. At the same time, society has an obligation to protect the unemployed and those members of society who are not able to fully and equally participate in the labour market.
Environment: The environment is the foundation of our society, economy and way of life; its protection must be one of our primary goals, both for its intrinsic and instrumental value. Eutopia must give priority to sustainable development, the development of environmentally friendly technologies and the replacement of environmentally detrimental ones.
Party conventions: One month after each national election, there will be a party convention to (a) elect the party leaders, (b) set priorities for the next three months, and (c) review party policies.
Party leadership: The party will be led by a Spokesperson and Deputy Spokesperson. Both posts will be filled in regular party elections occuring at a party convention one month after a national election. The person who receives the most votes in a party election will become Spokesperson; the person with the second-most votes will become Deputy Spokesperson. It is the Spokesperson's responsibility to officially represent the party and to organize party debate; s/he is aided in these taks by the Deputy. If the Spokesperson is temporarily unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will fulfill them. If the Spokesperson is permanently unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will become the new Spokesperson; party members will then elect a new Deputy Spokesperson.
***anoucement***
with a possibel terrorist attack at any democratic party in EUropia... Beeing We ( the RD ) one of the most of all...
I orderen that we install at ALL doors metal detectors and Special trained dogs to sniff any possibel explosive carrided... Any body that have "dogfobia" will be search manually by the security guards of the RD
I hope you understand is to the safety of us all
I'm expecting that the MILE will send some reenforces to the convection to give even more protection
thanks
Vasco I Killed Kenny
with a possibel terrorist attack at any democratic party in EUropia... Beeing We ( the RD ) one of the most of all...
I orderen that we install at ALL doors metal detectors and Special trained dogs to sniff any possibel explosive carrided... Any body that have "dogfobia" will be search manually by the security guards of the RD
I hope you understand is to the safety of us all
I'm expecting that the MILE will send some reenforces to the convection to give even more protection
thanks
Vasco I Killed Kenny
Delegates,
discussion is now complete, and voting on the new party programme and structure will begin. Please vote "yes" or "no" on each of the following resolutions. Resolutions marked with "a" and "b" are mutually exclusive; a "yes" vote for one must be accompanied by a "no" vote for the other.
Foreign affairs
1. Eutopia must join the citizenry of the world. It must play an active part in the international community, with an eye particularly to the North Atlantic region.
2.a. Playing an active role in the world community will necessitate membership in military alliances such as NATO.
2.b. At the same time, Eutopia must retain sovereign control over the use of its military; we do therefore not support membership in any military alliance.
3. We believe that Eutopia, in recognition of its role within the world community, should increase its spending on foreign aid if financially feasible.
Military
4. The military must accept civilian control and authority.
5. Eutopia must have a modern armed force. We support increased military funding to replace outdated and unsafe equipment, and to improve training facilities.
6. The military should be free to acquire equipment from any legitimate source.
7. In the long run, we should, as far as practical, reduce our dependence on imports of military equipment and achieve greater autonomy; to achieve this goal, subsidies to ENDTech should be increased.
8. Strategically, the role of our military is a defensive one. Therefore, the focus should be on our navy and air force. The focus of the army should be on coast and air defence.
9. In the interest of continuing good relations with the US, we support the maintenance of a US military base at Farpoint.
10. However, when off base, US citizens and military personnel who do not enjoy diplomatic status must be subject to Eutopia's laws in the same manner as every other resident or visitor.
11. Finally, we call for the abolition of male conscription and the establishment of a purely professional army.
Education
12. We believe that every student is entitled to receive instruction delivered in any Eutopian language they choose, provided this is feasible and numbers warrant.
13. High school: we believe that every student should be able to speak two of the three major Eutopian languages on graduation.
14. University: we believe that post-secondary education must be accessible to all Eutopians; tuition is acceptable only if other sources of fudning cannot be found, and must stay within reasonable (affordable) limits to avoid discrimination against students from underprivileged backgrounds.
Ethnic groups
15. Eutopia is a multicultural and multilingual country. This diversity should be celebrated, not deplored.
16. Minority members must have equal access to societal goods and services.
17. Discrimination because of a language spoken must be avoided in the judicary, government, other forms of public life, and the economy. Appropriate measures to prevent or alleviate language-based disadvantage in those areas should be put in place.
Economy
18. Capitalism, when embedded in strong systems of regulation, has proven effective in generating unprecedented levels of wealth. However, unfettered capitalism will produce socially disastrous outcomes. We believe that capitalism has to serve the public, not the other way around. We therefore support a social market economy, that is, a capitalist system with strong controls to ensure social justice.
19. We believe in a strong public system in areas such as natural resources, and in the provision of services such as health care, transportation, and utilities.
20. A strong public system is not only desirable in terms of accessibility to all and social justice, but will also serve to stimulate the economy.
Public transport
21. Public transport should *be* public; we support the nationalization of railways, bus systems and subways to reduce consumer costs and make public transport more widely accessible.
22. [...], provided these measures are financially feasible.
23. We should also encourage public transportation as much as possible, by keeping user costs low and subsidizing senior citizens, students and the unemployed.
24. In addition to providing greater accessibility, a good public transportation infrastructure will also lead to a cleaner enviornment.
Crime and punishment
25. The goal of punishment is the protection of society and the rehabilitation of the criminal; we therefore supports reforms of the current retributive system. In particular, we strongly oppose the death penalty.
26. [...] in times of peace. In times of national crisis, such as war or civil war, the death penalty may have a role to play if the criminal justice system does not otherwise work effectively.
27. We support the decriminalization of soft drugs such as marihuana, but oppose the decriminalization of hard drugs. The goal of a national drug policy should be to punish those who earn a livelihood from selling hard drugs, not to punish those who use them.
28.a. However, we dot not support drug legalization; drugs of any sort are harmful both to the individual and to society. It is not the role of the government to encourage drug abuse which a policy of legalization would do.
28.b. In order to reduce the criminal potential associated with the drug market, the state should have the monopoly of the cannabis market. Privatization of this sector may be considered in the future if such a step is necessary or beneficial.
Terrorism
29. Eutopia needs strict ant-terrorist laws to protect its citizens and democratic institutions, and it must have a well-trained and well-equipped anti-terrorist service to achieve these gaols.
30. We must do all we can to eliminate local terrorist acts, but must take care not to do so at the cost of civil liberties.
31. Care must also be taken in deciding who is and is not to be considered a terrorist.
Immigration and citizenship
32. We call for the introduction of two separate pieces of legislation governing refugees and immigration, respectively.
33. Any bona fide refugee must be granted unconditional asylum; they should be allowed to participate in the labour market.
34. Prospective immigrants (permanent residents) should be able to communicate in at least one of the three major languages at the time of entry.
35. Applicants for citizenship must be permanent residents, must have resided in Eutopia for at least three years out of the four years preceding their application and must have basic communication skills in at least two of the three major languages.
36. The state should provide programmes which allow permanent residents to integrate into Eutopian society and acquire the skills necessary to apply for citizenship if they so desire.
Federalism
37. We favour the introduction of a truly federal system with self-government for all the provinces and territories in policy areas which are primarily local or regional in nature.
38. In the short run, all provinces and territories should be granted the status of "Autonomous Provinces." In the long run, the system of national and provincial powers should be overhauled with the intent of granting provinces self-government in all areas of a primarily local or regional nature.
Minority rights
39. We call for the constitutional entrenchment of a basic rights catalogue and protection of historically disadvantaged groups, and for constitutional recognition of Eutopia’s multicultural heritage.
Same sex rights
40. We strongly support equal rights and status for same sex couples in their relation to the state. This includes the right to a civil union and the right to adoption.
Abortion
41. We support the right of mothers to choose, though abortion should generally not be available beyond the first three months. Parents should be provided with counselling to help them make an informed decision. In cases where the continuation of a pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's health, abortion should be available throughout the pregnancy.
Health care
42. We are strongly opposed to two-tier health care; we believe that health care can be privatized under strict regulation, but health insurance must remain in the hands of a single state-regulated provider to ensure social equality.
Welfare
43. All individuals and groups are shaped by society and shape society in turn. Our fates are bound together; hence we have an obligation to society. In particular, those who benefit from the current organization of society have an obligation to protect the weaker members of society, and to prevent poverty, destitution, or the marginalization of groups or individuals.
44. The workforce and consumers must be protected through strict enforcement of economic regulations, a fair distribution of economic costs and the cost of government, and state control over sensitive sectors of the economy.
45. The effectiveness of labour in representing and protecting the interests of employees must be safeguarded. At the same time, society has an obligation to protect the unemployed and those members of society who are not able to fully and equally participate in the labour market.
46. We believe all Eutopians have a right to work, and all Eutopians who are able to do so should work in order to contribute to our society according to their means.
47. However, due to the dynamics of the market, workers may at times be deemed redundant by employers. Employers and employees alike are responsible for ensuring that those who do lose work (and their families) do not face destitution by contributing funds to a government-run insurance programme. Government should also fund compensation and welfare programmes.
Environment
48. The environment is the foundation of our society, economy and way of life; its protection must be one of our primary goals, both for its intrinsic and instrumental value. Eutopia must give priority to sustainable development, the development of environmentally friendly technologies and the replacement of environmentally detrimental ones.
49. We further need to renew our energy system in order to reduce the amount of pollution it produces, and to defend our forests and wildlife.
Party organization
50. One month after each national election, there will be a party convention to (a) elect the party leaders, (b) set priorities for the next three months, and (c) review party policies.
51. The party will be led by a Spokesperson and Deputy Spokesperson. Both posts will be filled in regular party elections occuring at the party convention. The person who receives the most votes will become Spokesperson; the person with the second-most votes will become Deputy Spokesperson.
52. It is the Spokesperson's responsibility to officially represent the party and to organize party debate; s/he is aided in these taks by the Deputy. If the Spokesperson is temporarily unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will fulfill them. If the Spokesperson is permanently unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will become the new Spokesperson; party members will then elect a new Deputy Spokesperson.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
discussion is now complete, and voting on the new party programme and structure will begin. Please vote "yes" or "no" on each of the following resolutions. Resolutions marked with "a" and "b" are mutually exclusive; a "yes" vote for one must be accompanied by a "no" vote for the other.
Foreign affairs
1. Eutopia must join the citizenry of the world. It must play an active part in the international community, with an eye particularly to the North Atlantic region.
2.a. Playing an active role in the world community will necessitate membership in military alliances such as NATO.
2.b. At the same time, Eutopia must retain sovereign control over the use of its military; we do therefore not support membership in any military alliance.
3. We believe that Eutopia, in recognition of its role within the world community, should increase its spending on foreign aid if financially feasible.
Military
4. The military must accept civilian control and authority.
5. Eutopia must have a modern armed force. We support increased military funding to replace outdated and unsafe equipment, and to improve training facilities.
6. The military should be free to acquire equipment from any legitimate source.
7. In the long run, we should, as far as practical, reduce our dependence on imports of military equipment and achieve greater autonomy; to achieve this goal, subsidies to ENDTech should be increased.
8. Strategically, the role of our military is a defensive one. Therefore, the focus should be on our navy and air force. The focus of the army should be on coast and air defence.
9. In the interest of continuing good relations with the US, we support the maintenance of a US military base at Farpoint.
10. However, when off base, US citizens and military personnel who do not enjoy diplomatic status must be subject to Eutopia's laws in the same manner as every other resident or visitor.
11. Finally, we call for the abolition of male conscription and the establishment of a purely professional army.
Education
12. We believe that every student is entitled to receive instruction delivered in any Eutopian language they choose, provided this is feasible and numbers warrant.
13. High school: we believe that every student should be able to speak two of the three major Eutopian languages on graduation.
14. University: we believe that post-secondary education must be accessible to all Eutopians; tuition is acceptable only if other sources of fudning cannot be found, and must stay within reasonable (affordable) limits to avoid discrimination against students from underprivileged backgrounds.
Ethnic groups
15. Eutopia is a multicultural and multilingual country. This diversity should be celebrated, not deplored.
16. Minority members must have equal access to societal goods and services.
17. Discrimination because of a language spoken must be avoided in the judicary, government, other forms of public life, and the economy. Appropriate measures to prevent or alleviate language-based disadvantage in those areas should be put in place.
Economy
18. Capitalism, when embedded in strong systems of regulation, has proven effective in generating unprecedented levels of wealth. However, unfettered capitalism will produce socially disastrous outcomes. We believe that capitalism has to serve the public, not the other way around. We therefore support a social market economy, that is, a capitalist system with strong controls to ensure social justice.
19. We believe in a strong public system in areas such as natural resources, and in the provision of services such as health care, transportation, and utilities.
20. A strong public system is not only desirable in terms of accessibility to all and social justice, but will also serve to stimulate the economy.
Public transport
21. Public transport should *be* public; we support the nationalization of railways, bus systems and subways to reduce consumer costs and make public transport more widely accessible.
22. [...], provided these measures are financially feasible.
23. We should also encourage public transportation as much as possible, by keeping user costs low and subsidizing senior citizens, students and the unemployed.
24. In addition to providing greater accessibility, a good public transportation infrastructure will also lead to a cleaner enviornment.
Crime and punishment
25. The goal of punishment is the protection of society and the rehabilitation of the criminal; we therefore supports reforms of the current retributive system. In particular, we strongly oppose the death penalty.
26. [...] in times of peace. In times of national crisis, such as war or civil war, the death penalty may have a role to play if the criminal justice system does not otherwise work effectively.
27. We support the decriminalization of soft drugs such as marihuana, but oppose the decriminalization of hard drugs. The goal of a national drug policy should be to punish those who earn a livelihood from selling hard drugs, not to punish those who use them.
28.a. However, we dot not support drug legalization; drugs of any sort are harmful both to the individual and to society. It is not the role of the government to encourage drug abuse which a policy of legalization would do.
28.b. In order to reduce the criminal potential associated with the drug market, the state should have the monopoly of the cannabis market. Privatization of this sector may be considered in the future if such a step is necessary or beneficial.
Terrorism
29. Eutopia needs strict ant-terrorist laws to protect its citizens and democratic institutions, and it must have a well-trained and well-equipped anti-terrorist service to achieve these gaols.
30. We must do all we can to eliminate local terrorist acts, but must take care not to do so at the cost of civil liberties.
31. Care must also be taken in deciding who is and is not to be considered a terrorist.
Immigration and citizenship
32. We call for the introduction of two separate pieces of legislation governing refugees and immigration, respectively.
33. Any bona fide refugee must be granted unconditional asylum; they should be allowed to participate in the labour market.
34. Prospective immigrants (permanent residents) should be able to communicate in at least one of the three major languages at the time of entry.
35. Applicants for citizenship must be permanent residents, must have resided in Eutopia for at least three years out of the four years preceding their application and must have basic communication skills in at least two of the three major languages.
36. The state should provide programmes which allow permanent residents to integrate into Eutopian society and acquire the skills necessary to apply for citizenship if they so desire.
Federalism
37. We favour the introduction of a truly federal system with self-government for all the provinces and territories in policy areas which are primarily local or regional in nature.
38. In the short run, all provinces and territories should be granted the status of "Autonomous Provinces." In the long run, the system of national and provincial powers should be overhauled with the intent of granting provinces self-government in all areas of a primarily local or regional nature.
Minority rights
39. We call for the constitutional entrenchment of a basic rights catalogue and protection of historically disadvantaged groups, and for constitutional recognition of Eutopia’s multicultural heritage.
Same sex rights
40. We strongly support equal rights and status for same sex couples in their relation to the state. This includes the right to a civil union and the right to adoption.
Abortion
41. We support the right of mothers to choose, though abortion should generally not be available beyond the first three months. Parents should be provided with counselling to help them make an informed decision. In cases where the continuation of a pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's health, abortion should be available throughout the pregnancy.
Health care
42. We are strongly opposed to two-tier health care; we believe that health care can be privatized under strict regulation, but health insurance must remain in the hands of a single state-regulated provider to ensure social equality.
Welfare
43. All individuals and groups are shaped by society and shape society in turn. Our fates are bound together; hence we have an obligation to society. In particular, those who benefit from the current organization of society have an obligation to protect the weaker members of society, and to prevent poverty, destitution, or the marginalization of groups or individuals.
44. The workforce and consumers must be protected through strict enforcement of economic regulations, a fair distribution of economic costs and the cost of government, and state control over sensitive sectors of the economy.
45. The effectiveness of labour in representing and protecting the interests of employees must be safeguarded. At the same time, society has an obligation to protect the unemployed and those members of society who are not able to fully and equally participate in the labour market.
46. We believe all Eutopians have a right to work, and all Eutopians who are able to do so should work in order to contribute to our society according to their means.
47. However, due to the dynamics of the market, workers may at times be deemed redundant by employers. Employers and employees alike are responsible for ensuring that those who do lose work (and their families) do not face destitution by contributing funds to a government-run insurance programme. Government should also fund compensation and welfare programmes.
Environment
48. The environment is the foundation of our society, economy and way of life; its protection must be one of our primary goals, both for its intrinsic and instrumental value. Eutopia must give priority to sustainable development, the development of environmentally friendly technologies and the replacement of environmentally detrimental ones.
49. We further need to renew our energy system in order to reduce the amount of pollution it produces, and to defend our forests and wildlife.
Party organization
50. One month after each national election, there will be a party convention to (a) elect the party leaders, (b) set priorities for the next three months, and (c) review party policies.
51. The party will be led by a Spokesperson and Deputy Spokesperson. Both posts will be filled in regular party elections occuring at the party convention. The person who receives the most votes will become Spokesperson; the person with the second-most votes will become Deputy Spokesperson.
52. It is the Spokesperson's responsibility to officially represent the party and to organize party debate; s/he is aided in these taks by the Deputy. If the Spokesperson is temporarily unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will fulfill them. If the Spokesperson is permanently unable to fulfill his/her duties, the Deputy Spokesperson will become the new Spokesperson; party members will then elect a new Deputy Spokesperson.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
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1. Yes.
2.a. Yes.
2.b. No.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.
7. Yes.
8. Yes.
9. Yes.
10. Yes.
11. Yes.
12. Yes.
13. Yes.
14. Yes.
15. Yes.
16. Yes.
17. Yes.
18. Yes.
19. Yes.
20. Yes.
21. Yes.
22. Yes.
23. Yes.
24. Yes.
25. Yes.
26. No.
27. Yes.
28.a. No.
28.b. Yes.
29. Yes.
30. Yes.
31. Yes.
32. Yes.
33. Yes.
34. Yes.
35. Yes.
36. Yes.
37. Yes.
38. Yes.
39. Yes.
40. Yes.
41. Yes.
42. Yes.
43. Yes.
44. Yes.
45. Yes.
46. Yes.
47. Yes.
48. Yes.
49. Yes.
50. Yes.
51. Yes.
52. Yes.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
2.a. Yes.
2.b. No.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.
7. Yes.
8. Yes.
9. Yes.
10. Yes.
11. Yes.
12. Yes.
13. Yes.
14. Yes.
15. Yes.
16. Yes.
17. Yes.
18. Yes.
19. Yes.
20. Yes.
21. Yes.
22. Yes.
23. Yes.
24. Yes.
25. Yes.
26. No.
27. Yes.
28.a. No.
28.b. Yes.
29. Yes.
30. Yes.
31. Yes.
32. Yes.
33. Yes.
34. Yes.
35. Yes.
36. Yes.
37. Yes.
38. Yes.
39. Yes.
40. Yes.
41. Yes.
42. Yes.
43. Yes.
44. Yes.
45. Yes.
46. Yes.
47. Yes.
48. Yes.
49. Yes.
50. Yes.
51. Yes.
52. Yes.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
1-yes
2a-no
2b-yes
3-no
4-yes
5-no ( with the MRC we'll not put more money to the Armed Forces but decrese )
6-yes
7-yes
8-yes
9-yes
10-yes
11-yes
12-yes
13-yes
14-yes
15-yes
16-yes
17-yes
18-yes
19-yes
20-yes
21-no (I'm not sure of this, but I say, only nationalize when we have a balaced budget. That is why I voted YES no 22 )
22-yes
23-yes
24-yes
25-yes
26-yes
27-yes
28a-no
28b-yes
29-yes
30-yes
31-yes
32-yes
33-yes
34-yes
35-yes
36-yes
37-yes
38-yes
39-yes
40-yes
41-yes
42-yes
43-yes
44-yes
45-yes
46-yes
47-yes
48-yes
49-yes
50-yes
51-yes
52-yes
that is all
2a-no
2b-yes
3-no
4-yes
5-no ( with the MRC we'll not put more money to the Armed Forces but decrese
)6-yes
7-yes
8-yes
9-yes
10-yes
11-yes
12-yes
13-yes
14-yes
15-yes
16-yes
17-yes
18-yes
19-yes
20-yes
21-no (I'm not sure of this, but I say, only nationalize when we have a balaced budget. That is why I voted YES no 22 )
22-yes
23-yes
24-yes
25-yes
26-yes
27-yes
28a-no
28b-yes
29-yes
30-yes
31-yes
32-yes
33-yes
34-yes
35-yes
36-yes
37-yes
38-yes
39-yes
40-yes
41-yes
42-yes
43-yes
44-yes
45-yes
46-yes
47-yes
48-yes
49-yes
50-yes
51-yes
52-yes
that is all
1. no
2a. no
2b yes
3. yes
4. Yes
5.---
6. yes
7. yes
8. yes
9. No
10 Yes
11. yes
12. yes
13. yes
14 No
15 yes
16 yes
17 Yes
18 yes
19 Yes
20 Y
21 Y
22 Y
23 Y
24 Y
25 Y
26 N
27 Y
28 A. Y
28 B N
29 Y
30 Y
31 Y
32 Y
33 Y
34 N
35 N
36 Y
37 Y
38 Y
39 Y
40 Y
41 Y
42 N
43 Y
44 Y
45 Y
46 Y
47 Y
48 Y
49 Y
50--52 ------
Josephus I
2a. no
2b yes
3. yes
4. Yes
5.---
6. yes
7. yes
8. yes
9. No
10 Yes
11. yes
12. yes
13. yes
14 No
15 yes
16 yes
17 Yes
18 yes
19 Yes
20 Y
21 Y
22 Y
23 Y
24 Y
25 Y
26 N
27 Y
28 A. Y
28 B N
29 Y
30 Y
31 Y
32 Y
33 Y
34 N
35 N
36 Y
37 Y
38 Y
39 Y
40 Y
41 Y
42 N
43 Y
44 Y
45 Y
46 Y
47 Y
48 Y
49 Y
50--52 ------
Josephus I
Foreign affairs
1. Yes
2.a. Yes
2.b. No
3. Yes
4. YES!
5. Yes
6. The word legitimate scares me -- is the recognized government of North Korea legitimate? I must therefore vote No
7. Yes
8. Yes. This will also reduce the chance of military medling in the affair of state.
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. Abstain
12. Yes
13. Yes
14. Yes
15. Yes.
16. Yes
17. Yes
18. Yes
19. Yes
20. Yes
21. Yes
22. Yes
23. Yes (What happend to students in this statement?)
24. Yes
25. Yes
26. No
27. Yes
28.a. No
28.b. Yes. Our school system money shortage could be solved with this.
29. Yes (typo -- gaols)
30. Yes
31. Yes
32. Yes
33. Yes
34. Yes
35. Yes
36. Yes
37. No
38. No
39. Abstain.
40. Yes
41. Yes
42. No. I trust free market forces to be more efficent than our national insurance corporation.
43. Yes
44. Yes
45. Yes
46. Yes
47. Yes
48. Yes
49. Yes
50. Yes
51. Yes
52. Yes
-Dr. Jonathan Glasser
1. Yes
2.a. Yes
2.b. No
3. Yes
4. YES!
5. Yes
6. The word legitimate scares me -- is the recognized government of North Korea legitimate? I must therefore vote No
7. Yes
8. Yes. This will also reduce the chance of military medling in the affair of state.
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. Abstain
12. Yes
13. Yes
14. Yes
15. Yes.
16. Yes
17. Yes
18. Yes
19. Yes
20. Yes
21. Yes
22. Yes
23. Yes (What happend to students in this statement?)
24. Yes
25. Yes
26. No
27. Yes
28.a. No
28.b. Yes. Our school system money shortage could be solved with this.
29. Yes (typo -- gaols)
30. Yes
31. Yes
32. Yes
33. Yes
34. Yes
35. Yes
36. Yes
37. No
38. No
39. Abstain.
40. Yes
41. Yes
42. No. I trust free market forces to be more efficent than our national insurance corporation.
43. Yes
44. Yes
45. Yes
46. Yes
47. Yes
48. Yes
49. Yes
50. Yes
51. Yes
52. Yes
-Dr. Jonathan Glasser
The suggestion from the floor was for senior citizens and the unemployed only (unless I missed something), but I'll add in students. Everybody, please take that into account and revise your vote on Resolution 23 accordingly if need be.
-- P.N.H. Schwarzerd
1 Y
2a N
2b Y
3 Y
4 Y
5 n
6 n
7 n
8 y
9 n
10-17 y
18 n
19-21 y
22 a
23-25 y
26 n
27y
28a n
28b y
29-36 y
37,38 a
39-41 y
42 n - no privatization whatsoever
43-49 y
2a N
2b Y
3 Y
4 Y
5 n
6 n
7 n
8 y
9 n
10-17 y
18 n
19-21 y
22 a
23-25 y
26 n
27y
28a n
28b y
29-36 y
37,38 a
39-41 y
42 n - no privatization whatsoever
43-49 y
1. No <- North Atlantic is extremely divided since war in Iraq...
2a. No <- bueh...
2b. Yes
3. No <- we have our own proplems...
4. Yes
5. YES!
6. YES!
7. YES!!!
8. YES!
9. abstain
10. yes
11. abstain
12. yes
13. yes
14. yes
15. yes
16. yes
17. yes
18. yes
19. yes
20. yes
21. yes
22. yes
23. yes
24. yes
25. yes
26. yes
27. NO! <- Drugs... that's the only thing Eutopia needs now.
28ab. abstain
29. yes
30. yes
31. yes
32. yes
33. yes
34. abstain
35. abstain
36. yes
37. yes
38. yes
39. yes
40. no <- adoption, just my opinion though.
41. yes
42. no <- no privatisation whatsoever.
43. yes
44. yes
45. yes
46. yes
47. yes
48. yes
49. yes
50. abstain
51. abstain
52. abstain <- It's your organisation, right?
2a. No <- bueh...
2b. Yes
3. No <- we have our own proplems...
4. Yes
5. YES!
6. YES!
7. YES!!!
8. YES!
9. abstain
10. yes
11. abstain
12. yes
13. yes
14. yes
15. yes
16. yes
17. yes
18. yes
19. yes
20. yes
21. yes
22. yes
23. yes
24. yes
25. yes
26. yes
27. NO! <- Drugs... that's the only thing Eutopia needs now
.28ab. abstain
29. yes
30. yes
31. yes
32. yes
33. yes
34. abstain
35. abstain
36. yes
37. yes
38. yes
39. yes
40. no <- adoption, just my opinion though
.41. yes
42. no <- no privatisation whatsoever.
43. yes
44. yes
45. yes
46. yes
47. yes
48. yes
49. yes
50. abstain
51. abstain
52. abstain <- It's your organisation, right?