And as I mentioned in that thread you can always write events to kill your tax collectors (type = losebuilding value = bailiff).
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I can go in and edit my savefile too, but that's pretty distasteful and i'd rather it be a part of the game. 
This issue has been concerning me as well. I think that the best solution would be to either lower the RR to +2 for having a tax collector, or by having tax collectors/majors/chief judges demolish when you aquire a new province (doesn't matter if it's by war, defection or inheritance).
I would like to hear Johan's oppinion on this issue.
I would like to hear Johan's oppinion on this issue.
Okay for the last time guys, there are so many people who just don't see it when we say it:
tax collectors aren't really just +1, they're +3 per year. +1 tax, +1 census, +1 production. That's a 6% yield on your investment if you're at 1 stability, 6.4% at +2 stability, 6.8% at +3 stability.
tax collectors aren't really just +1, they're +3 per year. +1 tax, +1 census, +1 production. That's a 6% yield on your investment if you're at 1 stability, 6.4% at +2 stability, 6.8% at +3 stability.
That said I support the +2 RR idea anyway. Nobody builds tax collectors in MP games. I think they should be able to . . .
Hmmm now that I think about it it's actually not quite +1 production since it's mitigated by production efficiency. In theory it could be up to +1.1 or so if you're Protestant England with full infra techs and good DP settings but in practice most of the game you'll be at 10-70% effieniency.
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They don't?
Pretty much everyone does in Tsunami... money is such a drain that every way to get cash helps.
Have you tried controlling an India full of tax collectors with a European country, while at -3 stab and 6 % WE? Then u would gladly give up those few ducats!
One thing that always bothered me was that tax collectors should be associated with a particular regime i.e. once the province changes ownership (not control) you ought to have to build them again. same goes for Legal Counsels too. I'd say Mayors as well but this has the potential for exploits.
How about nuking Tax collectors and legal counsels when a province is gained from another country
How about nuking Tax collectors and legal counsels when a province is gained from another country
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Guess that is a good solution... nuking tax collectors and legal counsels at ownership change.
Though the British Empire happily retained all of the tax system of the Mughals, which made them a very handy amount of money indeed.Originally posted by Hive
Have you tried controlling an India full of tax collectors with a European country, while at -3 stab and 6 % WE? Then u would gladly give up those few ducats!
They may have refined it later, but the main elements all stayed in place as British influence grew.
Neither France or Spain built any tax collectors. While its arguably good for France (a lot of RR from wars, conversions, wars of religion event, etc), Spain needs every ducat possible to fight inflation, IMHO.
Btw, will we get HOI nuke graphic?
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Neither France or Spain built any tax collectors. While its arguably good for France (a lot of RR from wars, conversions, wars of religion event, etc), Spain needs every ducat possible to fight inflation, IMHO.
Btw, will we get HOI nuke graphic?
In real life I can't believe that either Spain or France could get away with no tax collectors (tech or something else should hurt bad then) I think the system needs a major overhaul. Not nuke the tax collectors to suit the hegemon
I would argue that both the taxation income and associated RR survived the British takeover of India, with the latter appearing in the Indian Mutiny, among others.
In conquered provinces the taxation system would be assimilated into the conqerer's not dismantled and started again
Exactly! Some people argue that it's unrealistic not to collect taxes, and therefore should build a bailiff at all times - but the provinces pay taxes no matter what. It's just a question of how harsh you wish to be.