Removed Byzantium Cores

[thErgonomic]

So Venice and Ottos both got a core on Albania now, but Byzantium doesn't?
And what happened to all the greek cultured Byzantium cores?
Are both of these due to shadow patch changes made in 1.8?

 

[Ultrix Prime]

This was, as I recall, the case straight out with 1.8.

However, with the changes to trade, Byzantium is supposed to be richer than before based upon what I've read in the forums (haven't looked). Also they picked up Chios which gives them a way to preposition armies to go straight into Anatolia without having to cross the Bosphorus, assuming they've become strong and are ready to start stomping the Ottos. So it probably all balanced out somehow in the minds of Paradox.

 

[thErgonomic]

Ok, I just didn't find it in the patch notes.
Still I find it abit gamey that both Ottos and Venice have a core on Albania and Byzantium doesn't or the greek islands at the matter.

 

[Jorlaan]

I added those cores back myself, i felt it incredibly well...dumb that they got removed. Especially seeing as Byz dies every game anyways and by the time most countries can beat Byz out of Otto their cores are mostly gone anyways. Also why does setting cores to expire in 500 years NOT change how long it takes them to disappear? I've changed the core expiration time in every patch and ity has NEVER actually changed how long it takes for cores toe expire, it always stays the same. Yet when I change claim length to 50 years it does actually change.

 

[FloatingOrb]

I made a post about the new byzantium in art of war, it really does not need the cores. With the changes to trade, you are full blown op. Just blockade the sea of marama with 47 ish galleys, take greece, and laugh as you drown the ottomans in mercenary bodies.

 

[henzington]

As a side note the new trade system has made it so England actually has a navy as opposed to getting blown up once by france or castile and then never rebuilding.

 

[chrnno]

I added those cores back myself, i felt it incredibly well...dumb that they got removed. Especially seeing as Byz dies every game anyways and by the time most countries can beat Byz out of Otto their cores are mostly gone anyways. Also why does setting cores to expire in 500 years NOT change how long it takes them to disappear? I've changed the core expiration time in every patch and ity has NEVER actually changed how long it takes for cores toe expire, it always stays the same. Yet when I change claim length to 50 years it does actually change.

There are two(three if you count primary culture) values one for same culture group and other for the rest. Have you changed and tested both? If yes then you really should report it.

 

[Jorlaan]

Yeah I have tried changing both of them. I thought about reporting it actually but I need to test it with new patch because I may not have tested it with this patch. I kinda gave up after it never worked in the past.

 

[Ultrix Prime]

I added those cores back myself, i felt it incredibly well...dumb that they got removed. Especially seeing as Byz dies every game anyways and by the time most countries can beat Byz out of Otto their cores are mostly gone anyways. Also why does setting cores to expire in 500 years NOT change how long it takes them to disappear? I've changed the core expiration time in every patch and ity has NEVER actually changed how long it takes for cores toe expire, it always stays the same. Yet when I change claim length to 50 years it does actually change.

There's probably a max value somewhere that is smaller than 500 and setting it above the max simply causes it to have that max value.

 

[Mikalos]

Ok, I just didn't find it in the patch notes.
Still I find it abit gamey that both Ottos and Venice have a core on Albania and Byzantium doesn't or the greek islands at the matter.

why would byzantium need a core on albania?

 

[FreeSoc]

Ok, I just didn't find it in the patch notes.
Still I find it abit gamey that both Ottos and Venice have a core on Albania and Byzantium doesn't or the greek islands at the matter.

Byzantium still has cores on Naxos and Chios. It'd be nice to have ones on Rhodes and Crete at least, though.

And given that Albania is a 1BT province which will always be non-accepted culture until you convert it, you're not missing much on that front. A Byzantium game is still completely feasible in 1.8, and once you start retaking chunks of Anatolia you start getting rich pretty quickly.