Remaster of Victoria II?

[Atlantians]

Instead of Victoria III, how about a re-master of Victoria II?

Thoughts?

It is already such a solid and in-depth game.

They could build a skeleton team to re-master the game as an expansion DLC and potentially sell more new copies.

 

[Jack_Alexander]

Vic 3 would be better, they learned a lot with EU4 especially and can make a much better game.

 

[Suzaku]

Vic 3 would be better, they learned a lot with EU4 especially and can make a much better game.

I'm afraid what would happen actually now.

 

[Zethor]

True. If they do eventually make Victoria II, I don't want it to end up overly simplified... I would be afraid that they would remove the population count and replace it with a simple "3" pops or something like that. The pop system works for Stellaris because Stellaris isn't about internal politics...

 

[General WVPM]

Not sure what would be remastered and Victoria 2 is really really lacking a HUGE amount of events, historical decisions, depth and more.
The economic system is very shaky...
Sphere of influence and colonial competition requires too much clicking at the right time, which is unhistorical, unfun and tends to screw things up.
The military system is not bad, but far from complete.
Politics are too biased to start off with mass conservatism then some liberals then socialism & communism (mostly in the form of rebels) and later on everyone turns fascist...

Trade is not even a real feature, all you can basically do is buy and sell a limited amount of goods, no trade agreements, tariff free zones or trade routes nothing. Not even movement of goods, all is handled through teleportation.

Capitalists have no brain and no clue what to build. AI spams forts everywhere. Africa gets mass industry, railroads and forts for no good reason.

Events generally don't have a large enough impact and tend to be spammed, especially for large nations like the USA.

The budget management is both too flexible and too restricted at the same time as you can change taxes (and everything else) several times a day and it gets immediately implemented. While at the same time, you can't subsidize exports or raise tariffs only on certain goods (for example only on consumer goods so industry isn't hurt).

I could go on, but I think you get the point that Victoria 2 has some real problems and a remaster probably won't fix it.
Therefor I'm all for a Victoria 3, hoping that it fixes the problems of 2 while keeping depth and maybe making it more accessible by improving the UI instead of dumbing down.

I should note though that Victoria 2 is a good and fun game and I do enjoy it, it just has it's problems, like all other games do.

 

[Kevyinus]

They won't remaster Victoria 2.

The main reason is that Victoria is the lowest selling IP in the main Paradox collection of games. There were rumours that Victoria 2 wouldn't break even at launch - it did though and we got the expansions. A remastered Vicotria 2 just wouldn't be worth the time and effort against costs and returns. Victoria 3 would more likely sell a lot more than any remaster of Vicotria 2 would as it is a new game so would get a larger marketing budget, attract fans who are not interested in older games after playing HoI4/EU4 as well as an opportunity to attract new fans with graphical and gameplay changes. Victoria 2 has a lot to offer but needs bringing up to date game engine-wise.

 

[RELee]

Johan hates the World Trade system in V2. Keep that in mind.

 

[eleinvisible]

Doubtful.
1) the game still works on modern operating systems and machines.
2) the sales potential for a remaster would be low compared to a (more casual) Victoria III.
3) DLC is a financial mistake given the much smaller install base than CK2, EU4, etc.

I'd put this as not going to happen.

 

[Shinkuro Yukinari]

Then let the fans make the remaster. Remember For the Glory Europa Universalis

 

[General WVPM]

Then let the fans make the remaster. Remember For the Glory Europa Universalis

Paradox said they have very mixed experience with external parties working on their games. And they said it will be unlikely that such a thing will happen again.
So don't count on anything beyond mods...

 

[Shinkuro Yukinari]

I call nonsense. For the Glory is cheap, successful and takes the EU2 concept to the next level. Also, it is easy to mod, so the fun never ends

 

[grimkm]

I actually asked my girlfriend to get me Vic 3 for my birthday..it's in 2 days. So they better have it finished by then..or else, there will be tears!!!!