As the title suggests, why does the religious ideas not affect the "enforce religion" option on a vassal?
Problem: Thematically, why is my vassal dumbfounded that I would tell them to convert when:
>I have like 9 missionary strength, and converted all my provinces
>-5 tolerance to heretics and heathens
>I wage war against various neighboring heretics/heathens to convert them
But when I enforce my religion on my vassal, they get 100 liberty desire, as if they are shocked I would dare try to convert them, when I have literally fought WARS to convert nations.
Suggestion: Maybe instead of -25% culture conversion cost (which feels a bit random to me and I almost never use it), make it so it's -50% liberty desire on the "enforce religion" option on vassals so the penalty will be 50% instead of the full 100% liberty desire. This would make it more in line with the rest of the ideas about converting all forms of differing beliefs - whether it be my neighbors' lands, my land, or my vassal's land.
Now -50% off sound like a big change, but as I type here, thinking about it, I just remembered that the AI is slow when it comes to converting their own land, even when you enforce religion. This can made even more difficult when it comes to converting harder-to-convert-religions like Sunni and so on, so 50% off the liberty desire there isn't too extreme in my opinion.
As it stands, I am killing my prestige trying to get a vassal (who really SHOULD have seen my extreme intolerance of their faith coming) to calm down because they thought I would not dare to convert them despite the fact I have converted everything else under the sun.
It would have been easier to simply annex them and then convert the provinces myself. Which makes having marches and vassals harder when the end goal is still the same under religious ideas: to convert. I shouldn't have to annex them to get them to see my way without massive penalties.
Problem: Thematically, why is my vassal dumbfounded that I would tell them to convert when:
>I have like 9 missionary strength, and converted all my provinces
>-5 tolerance to heretics and heathens
>I wage war against various neighboring heretics/heathens to convert them
But when I enforce my religion on my vassal, they get 100 liberty desire, as if they are shocked I would dare try to convert them, when I have literally fought WARS to convert nations.
Suggestion: Maybe instead of -25% culture conversion cost (which feels a bit random to me and I almost never use it), make it so it's -50% liberty desire on the "enforce religion" option on vassals so the penalty will be 50% instead of the full 100% liberty desire. This would make it more in line with the rest of the ideas about converting all forms of differing beliefs - whether it be my neighbors' lands, my land, or my vassal's land.
Now -50% off sound like a big change, but as I type here, thinking about it, I just remembered that the AI is slow when it comes to converting their own land, even when you enforce religion. This can made even more difficult when it comes to converting harder-to-convert-religions like Sunni and so on, so 50% off the liberty desire there isn't too extreme in my opinion.
As it stands, I am killing my prestige trying to get a vassal (who really SHOULD have seen my extreme intolerance of their faith coming) to calm down because they thought I would not dare to convert them despite the fact I have converted everything else under the sun.
It would have been easier to simply annex them and then convert the provinces myself. Which makes having marches and vassals harder when the end goal is still the same under religious ideas: to convert. I shouldn't have to annex them to get them to see my way without massive penalties.
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