Religious corrections of the Mongols

[Thure]

I have allready say it in other threats... But here is a own one for this:

Many mongols have a wrong religion. Some of them should be Nestorian but are Orthodox. I have make a list:

Konchaka (125500) should be Orthodox. She was the wife of Yury of Moscow. This one is right ingame.

Sartag (125505) is a bigger problem... But wikipedia say "Sartaq was reputed to be a Christian convert (presumably nestorianism)" so I would make him Nestorian.

Anna (472795) was also the wife of a Russian prince. So Orthodox is okay.

Feodora (472825) was the wife of this Russian prince. So also here: Orthodox is okay.

Arghun (478008) is interesting. He was Buddhist. His father too. But he was pro-Christian.
His son Oljaitu (478007) was born as a christian and named after a pope (Nicholas). Later he convert to Islam. This give me to think that his wife Bulughan (478009) is more a Catholic then Orthodox. I have change Oljaitu too this (yes he often change his religion... look at wikipedia. And as muslim he take a new name):

478007 = {
	name="Nicholas"
	dynasty=11100
	religion="catholic"
	culture="mongol"
	father=478008
	1280.1.2={
		birth="1280.1.2"
	}
	1290.1.2={
		religion="tengri_pagan" #Buddhism
		name="Oljaitu"
	}
	1295.6.16={
		religion="sunni"
		name="Muhammad"
	}
	1304.1.1={
		religion="shiite"
	}
	1316.12.16={
		death="1316.12.16"
	}
}

Kitbuqa (93462) was a Nestorian like ingame.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

Awesome list. Thanks a lot for re-posting it. Hoping these get added.

I think there ought to be more Nestorian provinces also (at least early on); I can provide suggestions if Paradox are interested, but obviously nothing is going to be concrete.

For Teguder / 125523

125523 = {
	name="Teguder"
	dynasty=11100
	religion="[COLOR="#FF8C00"]nestorian[/COLOR]"
	culture="mongol"
	father=478011
	1238.1.2={
		birth="1238.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1282.1.1={
		religion="sunni"
		name="Ahmed Teguder"
	}[/COLOR]
	1284.1.2={
		death="1284.1.2"
	}
}

Ahmed Tekuder (Mongolian: Tögöldör/Төгөлдөр, meaning “perfect”), also known as Sultan Ahmad (reigned 1282–1284), was the sultan of the Persia-based Ilkhanate, son of Hulegu and brother of Abaqa. He was eventually succeeded by Arghun Khan. Tekuder was born Nicholas Tekuder Khan and had been baptized in his childhood as a Nestorian Christian; however, Tekuder later embraced Islam[1] and changed his name to Ahmed Tekuder.

Also, Baidu / 125522 could perhaps be a Nestorian, as it seems he was one but pretended to be a Muslim for political reasons. Which should we use?

125522 = {
	name="Baidu"
	dynasty=11100
	religion="[COLOR="#FF8C00"]nestorian[/COLOR]"
	culture="mongol"
	father=125521
	1255.1.2={
		birth="1255.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1295.1.1={
		religion="shiite"
	}[/COLOR]
	1295.8.2={
		death="1295.8.2"
	}
}

Ghazan / 125524 should be Nestorian and not Pagan, but later becomes Sunni.

125524 = {
	name="Ghazan"
	dynasty=11100
	diplomacy=8
	intrigue=8
	religion="[COLOR="#FF8C00"]nestorian[/COLOR]"
	culture="mongol"
	father=478008
	1271.11.5={
		birth="1271.11.5"
	}
	1295.6.16={
		religion="sunni"
		name="Mahmud Ghazan"
	}
	1304.5.11={
		death="1304.5.11"
	}
}

By the way, is it intentional that a lot of these Ilkhanate rulers are Shi'a instead of Sunni?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

More Nestorian provinces won't be added, then there currently are.

This has already been discussed on the internal forum, after your last suggestions.

So please don't bring up that issue anymore. At some point you should just accept that not all your proposals/idea's make it into the game.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

More Nestorian provinces won't be added, then there currently are.

This has already been discussed on the internal forum, after your last suggestions.

So please don't bring up that issue anymore. At some point you should just accept that not all your proposals/idea's make it into the game.

How on earth was I to know that it had been discussed on an internal forum to which I have no access, and been rejected? I'm not psychic, Veld.

I won't mention it again.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

How on earth was I to know that it had been discussed on an internal forum to which I have no access, and been rejected? I'm not psychic, Veld.

You are so many things, that I thought you were that to

 

[Thure]

And wath's with my suggestion? It was not about more Nestorian provinces, only about some corrections at the Mongols.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Has been reported.