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Hello

I've just finished an Ironman game where I became the Saoshyant

Couple of things I noticed as I played through:

Although I had various concubines of various faiths (i.e. Zikri, Catholic, Paulician), I never saw an option to convert to my concubines religion in the Intrigue menu? This was with characters who weren't zealous. Am I missing something? Or did I need a particular focus to allow the conversion? This was with all the Pre Conclave DLC enabled.

With my concubines, I would often set aside and replace and marry them off to other courtiers. I noticed there's no tracking of relationships with concubines (and also divorced wives) in the family tree? Is this working as intended? Is it fixed with Conclave and later patches?

Thanks for your help.
 

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I might be wrong but iirc only pagan religions (Slavic, Suomensko etc.) can convert to concubines' religion.

As for the second question, unfortunately concubines and former wives are not included in the family tree, at least at this moment :(.
 

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Zoroastrianism is not a pagan religion, and only pagans get pillow-conversion options. They have increased latitude in being able to convert to their attacker while defending against Islam to model how difficult it was for the Arabs to fully subdue the Iranian highlands (rather than just extract token payments of submission), a ruler would "convert" when the Arabs came calling and then when they got their booty the fires would be relit, in contrast to the more cosmopolitan cities on the lower side of the Zagros like Ctesiphon whose populations lastingly converted much sooner. It did not help that Ctesiphon was far closer to the caliphal capital than the highlands on the steppe side of the Zagros.
 

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True, but I meant more keeping track of how many concubines that ruler may have had over his lifetime, same with divorced wives etc. Adds to the dynasty building aspect I guess.

I want a complete overhaul of the Family Tree- it's very clunky
 
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