Religious Centers of Reform

[Greenskyguy]

I have been unable to play a EUIV game until this weekend, so how are the new religious centers of reform. Are they better than the old method? Also this is a modding question, but does anyone how religious centers spread their religion to CKII Catholic religions?

 

[stilgarpl]

They work great. Much better than the old method.
They convert provinces around them. You can see the progress bar of conversion with all modifiers that change the speed. They prefer to convert provinces in countries with state religion that matches religion of the center. They will target random provinces, but the closer to the center, the more likely it will be picked.
For example, I was playing as Brandenburg and converted to Protestantism. This created Center in one of my provinces. Bohemia also converted, so I had two centers of my religon and soon both of them were busy converting my provinces. Few years, and my whole country is Protestant. Then they began converting catholic provinces in other countries.

Instead of randomly dispersed provinces, now conversions make sense and whole, continuous regions are converted.

 

[mudcrabmerchant]

The centers themselves can turn up in really stupid places though. I converted as Bohemia, and instead of Prague getting the center, some podunk province of mine in east Prussia got it. And when Sweden converted, the CoR popped up in the far north, instead of in Stockholm.

The Reformed has centers in Switzerland and Milan, so they've actually converted a lot of Italy. That's pretty cool, though a tad implausible that Rome itself would convert this way.

 

[stilgarpl]

The Reformed has centers in Switzerland and Milan, so they've actually converted a lot of Italy. That's pretty cool, though a tad implausible that Rome itself would convert this way.

Rome should be Catholic "center of reformation". It would be harder to convert and would convert heretic provinces back to catholic.

 

[atwix]

i bet in theory rome can become a center of protestantism when papal state loses it. Or even when they still own it.

Anyways, new mechanic is great.

 

[Varvs]

In my game the reformation start fired in colonge and made it a center for the protestant fate. But the colonge state stayed catholic. Had to force convert them in a big war vs the emperor

 

[balmung60]

Only drawback is that it makes it harder to convert in the New World since there can't be non-European centers of reformation and now you need to convert everything manually.

 

[birincikalite]

Only drawback is that it makes it harder to convert in the New World since there can't be non-European centers of reformation and now you need to convert everything manually.

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I've seen those centers convert all the Protestant state owned provinces fairly quickly. Does it always convert provinces in Europe? Or a range fix? No way to convert America? Hmm that's a bit disappointing then but actually those centers make wonders! It's a great system and I like it. Before that it was very hard to convert to Protestant with ones like France, now it's very doable if a center spawns.

 

[balmung60]

Without the old conversion events, the only thing helping you convert in not-Europe is the heretic conversion bonus you get for converting.

 

[VampireBoot]

Without the old conversion events, the only thing helping you convert in not-Europe is the heretic conversion bonus you get for converting.

Which, to be fair, makes things pretty easy regardless.

 

[Beagá]

Rome should be Catholic "center of reformation". It would be harder to convert and would convert heretic provinces back to catholic.

After the counter-reformation, certainly.

Paradox should implement that.

 

[yuri2045]

The centers themselves can turn up in really stupid places though. I converted as Bohemia, and instead of Prague getting the center, some podunk province of mine in east Prussia got it. And when Sweden converted, the CoR popped up in the far north, instead of in Stockholm.

The Reformed has centers in Switzerland and Milan, so they've actually converted a lot of Italy. That's pretty cool, though a tad implausible that Rome itself would convert this way.

In my game Novgorod somehow got rekt by someone and was converted to catholicism and later on it became the CoR for the Reformed faith...so basically almost nothing converting.

 

[atwix]

In my game Novgorod somehow got rekt by someone and was converted to catholicism and later on it became the CoR for the Reformed faith...so basically almost nothing converting.

I bet iceland can become cor in theory.... Or.. the shetlands?

Would make a nice strange screenshot. I snapped the papal state capital in the shetlands once. Utrecht somehow had that province, and they ceded it to papal state after aragon took rome.

 

[RickMP80]

It's better the new method, but Rome (with Papal state) have to be catholic.