Religious Bonuses Elimination Thread

[Pedrinluigi]

It is over. In a lightning quick movement, Protestant throws himself to the side, while shooting forward, hitting Shia fatally in the chest. Shia's revolver, although it was drawn in time to react, was without bullets, due to Protestant's tampering with it beforehand. Hindu, taking advantage of this moment, ran behind a tombstone to try and pick Protestant off while it recovers from the ground, but before Hindu can even turn around after reaching a tombstone, he is hit fatally in the back, twice. Tumbling around, in its final moments, Hindu falls over inside an open grave, perfectly fitting the rectangle-shaped hole in the ground. Protestant, happy with the result, reloads the revolver, walks away, mounts its horse, and promptly leaves the scene.

Protestant is the winner, with 11 points remaining.

 

[Soranya]

Best policy is probably best.

Yeah but it will be a slaughter of arguments and opinions again . Also policies with their prerequistes and different MP costs (not calling it mana ) are for sure a very interesting topic to be voted on

 

[Path]

Yeah but it will be a slaughter of arguments and opinions again . Also policies with their prerequistes and different MP costs (not calling it mana ) are for sure a very interesting topic to be voted on

Depends. If we're talking SP then there's a very clear winner (nothing can touch the Rapid-Integration Act--not only does it save you huge amounts of bird mana if used correctly, it requires two idea groups that you should be taking as a matter of course), but for MP there are a few different alternatives.

 

[Soranya]

Depends. If we're talking SP then there's a very clear winner (nothing can touch the Rapid-Integration Act--not only does it save you huge amounts of bird mana if used correctly, it requires two idea groups that you should be taking as a matter of course), but for MP there are a few different alternatives.

And it is starting...

You could always wait for the 60% Admin efficency and then you have the 85% cost reduction without using the Policy

How well did Admin Ideas fair in the Ideagroup comparison btw?

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

And it is starting...

You could always wait for the 60% Admin efficency and then you have the 85% cost reduction without using the Policy

How well did Admin Ideas fair in the Ideagroup comparison btw?

First, IIRC

 

[Soranya]

Yeah for 1 essential and one or two medicore ideas and a lot of unec crap (also the +1 advisor significantly lost value with the lastest patch) ^^

I often end up not taking Admin ideas b.c. i find it so annoying to have all the merc stuff around later on (when you dont need mercs any more usually)

 

[Mosaic]

Suggestions for next elemination thread:

1. Best CB
2. Best Policy
3. Best Advisor

 

[Soranya]

we could make a vote for what to vote on next

EDIT:
As you may see i am slightly bored

 

[Pedrinluigi]

Next thread is probably prettiest unit sprites

 

[Kwami]

Depends. If we're talking SP then there's a very clear winner (nothing can touch the Rapid-Integration Act--not only does it save you huge amounts of bird mana if used correctly, it requires two idea groups that you should be taking as a matter of course), but for MP there are a few different alternatives.

This is the same thinking that said Catholic should win this vote. "I play to min/max every time, therefore the answer is obvious."

How do you not get bored when you always play the same way?!

 

[Path]

This is the same thinking that said Catholic should win this vote. "I play to min/max every time, therefore the answer is obvious."

How do you not get bored when you always play the same way?!

There's some serious strawmanning going on in these threads. Some people like to play Byzantium every patch (thus the inevitable ";_; Paradox nerfed Byzantium AGAIN ;_;"), some people keep playing the Ottomans/Castile/France/Austria because they like an easy ride, some people never play outside of Europe and some people never play anything but OPMs. Some people like blobbing all over the place and some people like decimating AI stacks with their space marines, but all this is completely effing irrelevant when it comes to the question of which religion/idea group/policy etc is the best. Gimping yourself on purpose for whatever reason does not make your choice better, no matter how much you may like it.

 

[Promanco]

I demand a recount

 

[Zakath]

I demand a recount

If I can do the recount, seconded!

I hereby declare Norse to be the best religion, next elimination thread!

 

[Fluffy_Fishy]

Suggestions for next elemination thread:

1. Best CB
2. Best Policy
3. Best Advisor

Best policy sounds interesting but I doubt a huge amount of people know the policies intimately enough.

 

[Rubidium]

Given all the talk about Buddhism, I wondered what people thought about these changes from the upcoming patch, and how they would affect things

- Re-electing a ruler now gives -10 karma (down from -20) and electing a new ruler now gives +10.
- Reduced Karma loss for starting offensive wars from -25 to -10.
- Buddhists no longer pay any diplomatic cost for releasing nations, releasing vassals and returning cores.

Given that Buddhists can now actually declare war without being hit by an immediate 10% discipline malus, and get slightly cheaper vassal feeding, how would their ranking change?

 

[Krajzen]

Suggestions for next elemination thread:

1. Best CB
2. Best Policy
3. Best Advisor

Best trade good strategic bonus

 

[quicksabre]

Suggestions for next elemination thread:

1. Best CB
2. Best Policy
3. Best Advisor

I think CB would be fun.

 

[Krajzen]

Given all the talk about Buddhism, I wondered what people thought about these changes from the upcoming patch, and how they would affect things

Given that Buddhists can now actually declare war without being hit by an immediate 10% discipline malus, and get slightly cheaper vassal feeding, how would their ranking change?

Wait, what. WHERE are new patch notes? :0 I haven't seen those!

 

[Rubidium]

Wait, what. WHERE are new patch notes? :0 I haven't seen those!

Post 177 in the 1.13 Beta thread

 

[Kwami]

There's some serious strawmanning going on in these threads. Some people like to play Byzantium every patch (thus the inevitable ";_; Paradox nerfed Byzantium AGAIN ;_;"), some people keep playing the Ottomans/Castile/France/Austria because they like an easy ride, some people never play outside of Europe and some people never play anything but OPMs. Some people like blobbing all over the place and some people like decimating AI stacks with their space marines, but all this is completely effing irrelevant when it comes to the question of which religion/idea group/policy etc is the best. Gimping yourself on purpose for whatever reason does not make your choice better, no matter how much you may like it.

But how do you define "best"? It seems to me that you (and others) keep defining "best" as "best for blobbing all over the place" and ignore all other types of game play.