I tend to notice in a lot of post here take these concepts far too literal
To help I will start off using the example of battles say you fight a stack of 20 French (20,000) as England and you break their moral and inflict 6,200 casualties. Then you chase down the remaining French and destroy them before their morale recovers. You did not just kill 20,000 French you killed a lot of them but mostly what you did was break the army. They are gone from the French manpower forever because those that survived ran off to another nation, became bandits, farmers, colonist, and some went off to Switzerland and became Mercenaries but they are gone form the French manpower pool and that is what matters but 20,000 men did not just die in those two battles. Now when you consider this we will go to coring next.
To me coring is the king lord whatever your government is appointing a Baron, Count,, Duke, or several Lords to go to this territory and go in and subjugate the people to the new law of the land. Ottomans would send governors it doesn’t matter this is what coring is and that’s why it takes from your power pool at court to do this action because someone/s has been sent to these new lands to bring them into fold with a centralized power structure that goes up to the leader of the nation you.
Now Ethnic/Culture conversion people seem to hate this one but is not going in and making everyone your race far from it. It is going in and saying the trade language of the land is now the language of the court. Example Portugal in North Africa they change the culture of the people in a formally Moroccan province they enact laws and that if you want buy wheat you have to buy it speaking Portuguese using Portuguese coins and obeying Portuguese laws regarding trade when the cultural conversion is over the People are still ethnically North African but they follow Portuguese laws and speak Portuguese in public.
Now religious conversion
Ok yes less than ethical burnings and torture go on but we won’t get into that it’s not what it’s about but it probably does happen.
What matters here is that the new religion comes in and destroys the centers of power of the old. Now imagine an Ottoman player takes over Constantinople and begins religious conversion the Churches become Mosques the wealth in the churches is given to the Clerics of Islam and the books of the old religion are probably burned. At the end of the conversion the population is not magically the new religion in fact the majority of the population is probably the old religion but they have no centralized power structure no wealth and no ability to focus power of that religion so they are broken and no longer able to mount an effective rebellious effort.
When you realize that these concepts are not absolutes you will be much happier with the mechanic. In all of the above they are a way to lower rebellion risk by imposing your power/religion/culture on the people in your growing empire. They do not extinguish the old but make the people who don’t bow to the new ways disenfranchised and powerless. The people would most likely need an external power to reclaim their old ways if a strong centralized government rules over them.
Hope that helps people and makes people less upset about the concepts in the game
To help I will start off using the example of battles say you fight a stack of 20 French (20,000) as England and you break their moral and inflict 6,200 casualties. Then you chase down the remaining French and destroy them before their morale recovers. You did not just kill 20,000 French you killed a lot of them but mostly what you did was break the army. They are gone from the French manpower forever because those that survived ran off to another nation, became bandits, farmers, colonist, and some went off to Switzerland and became Mercenaries but they are gone form the French manpower pool and that is what matters but 20,000 men did not just die in those two battles. Now when you consider this we will go to coring next.
To me coring is the king lord whatever your government is appointing a Baron, Count,, Duke, or several Lords to go to this territory and go in and subjugate the people to the new law of the land. Ottomans would send governors it doesn’t matter this is what coring is and that’s why it takes from your power pool at court to do this action because someone/s has been sent to these new lands to bring them into fold with a centralized power structure that goes up to the leader of the nation you.
Now Ethnic/Culture conversion people seem to hate this one but is not going in and making everyone your race far from it. It is going in and saying the trade language of the land is now the language of the court. Example Portugal in North Africa they change the culture of the people in a formally Moroccan province they enact laws and that if you want buy wheat you have to buy it speaking Portuguese using Portuguese coins and obeying Portuguese laws regarding trade when the cultural conversion is over the People are still ethnically North African but they follow Portuguese laws and speak Portuguese in public.
Now religious conversion
Ok yes less than ethical burnings and torture go on but we won’t get into that it’s not what it’s about but it probably does happen.
What matters here is that the new religion comes in and destroys the centers of power of the old. Now imagine an Ottoman player takes over Constantinople and begins religious conversion the Churches become Mosques the wealth in the churches is given to the Clerics of Islam and the books of the old religion are probably burned. At the end of the conversion the population is not magically the new religion in fact the majority of the population is probably the old religion but they have no centralized power structure no wealth and no ability to focus power of that religion so they are broken and no longer able to mount an effective rebellious effort.
When you realize that these concepts are not absolutes you will be much happier with the mechanic. In all of the above they are a way to lower rebellion risk by imposing your power/religion/culture on the people in your growing empire. They do not extinguish the old but make the people who don’t bow to the new ways disenfranchised and powerless. The people would most likely need an external power to reclaim their old ways if a strong centralized government rules over them.
Hope that helps people and makes people less upset about the concepts in the game
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