Releasing Vassals

[Bovara]

Just started a new game of Venice on Ironman and noticed a change not in the patch notes. Previously I have gone to war with the Ottomans to get rid of my vassals on Naxos and Corfu. Went to war opened up the peacedeal after a month and ditching them was not on offer. So its no longer a sneaky way to free some diplo slots anymore. I am sure if they get sieged down it would be on the list but you can't just dump them as an exploit anymore. Probably a fair change, but thought I would pass on the observation.

 

[DM818]

Yeah I already made a post about it I noticed it in my game as byzantium it does destroy the byzantine opening a bit more than the venitian.

 

[Bovara]

Yeah agreed which makes the Urbino/HRE move more attractive now. I'm a Byzantophile, all other nations I play just to do achievements

 

[TheBloke]

It seems fine to me?

What are you seeing different to this?

 

[Bovara]

All options except the last and revoking cores where greyed out

 

[TheBloke]

EDIT: No, I don't see what you mean. I can do it fine for Byzantium.

 

[DM818]

Maybe it has to do with inheriting the war of a vassal I also noticed that my alliance with serbia still broke automatically despite the patch notes saying that wouldn't happen anymore.

 

[Bovara]

Yes it was using the Albania/ otto war and claim on Albania as Venice to do an early freeing of 2 diplo slots. Have seen the other thread today so thought I would clarify. Obviously what I/we try to do here is very gamey to some people but by no means a streatch in the diplomacy of the time. I personally would like to see in negotiations the ability to ask for and conceed territory in the same negotiation.

 

[TheBloke]

Yeah it's inheriting a vassal war - it seems to disable Return Core, Cancel Vassal, and Release Nation. I've raised a bug report: [h=1][1.5.0] Inheriting war does not allow Offer Tribute Cancel Vassal or Release Nation[/h]